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Partial Birth Abortionist Dares Ashcroft to Prosecute (Warning-Graphic Details)
NewsMax.com ^ | 11/16/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 11/16/2003 8:01:43 AM PST by kattracks

For years the pro-choice crowd defended partial birth abortion as an absolute last resort; certainly not a decision any woman or her doctor would take lightly.

But at least one practitioner of the grisly procedure discussed the topic recently in almost matter-of-fact tones - and dared Attorney General John Ashcroft to prosecute him under the new law banning the operation.

NewsMax.com's Fr. Mike Reilly reports that Dr. Warren Hern described a partial birth abortion he performed for MSN.com readers on October 22, 2003.

"Earlier this year, I began an abortion on a young woman who was 17 weeks pregnant," recalled Hern.

"Because of the two days of prior treatment, the amniotic membranes were visible and bulging. I ruptured the membranes and released the fluid to reduce the risk of amniotic fluid embolism."

The doctor's account turned gruesome as he decried the baby's life being snuffed out.

"Then I inserted my forceps into the uterus and applied them to the head of the fetus, which was still alive, since fetal injection is not done at that stage of pregnancy. I closed the forceps, crushing the skull of the fetus, and withdrew the forceps."

The baby, now dead, "slid out more or less intact," Hern noted. "With the next pass of the forceps, I grasped the placenta, and it came out in one piece. Within a few seconds, I had completed my routine exploration of the uterus and sharp curettage."

Dr. Hern said the loss of blood was minimal and that his patient, who was awake, hardly felt the operation.

"Did I do a 'partial-birth' abortion?" the abortionist asked MSN readers. "Will John Ashcroft prosecute me?"



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortionist; doj; pbaban2003; warrenhern

1 posted on 11/16/2003 8:01:44 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
>>Did I do a 'partial-birth' abortion?" the abortionist asked MSN readers. "Will John Ashcroft prosecute me?" <<

Maybe not John Ashcroft, but God Himself certainly will.

God Bless that baby and the mother who has to live with murdering her child.
2 posted on 11/16/2003 8:06:34 AM PST by netmilsmom ( We are SITCOMs-single income, two kids, oppressive mortgage.)
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To: netmilsmom
Pride cometh before a fall.
3 posted on 11/16/2003 8:15:09 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: kattracks
Not posting in opposition, but this does not fit traditional definition of PB abortion. In those cases, usually performed late in the third trimester ( >32 weeks +/- ), the head of the functional fetus is "delivered", then the brain is destroyed extra-utero.

This is something different.
4 posted on 11/16/2003 8:20:07 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: MindBender26
........ and very bad.
5 posted on 11/16/2003 8:20:39 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: MindBender26
Actually in a PBA the baby is delivered breech or feet first and when the base of the skull is out delivery is stopped and the "doctor" stabs the baby at the base of the skull and suctions out the brain.
6 posted on 11/16/2003 8:26:24 AM PST by CajunConservative
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To: netmilsmom
I continue to be amazed that anyone can find a doctor who will perform this procedure. The whole thing sounds like something that Orwell or Huxley would conjure up in one of their novels.

What really pains me is that we have politicians and interest groups in this nation who support and defend this horrible procedure.

And what of the Hippocratic oath. I read this oath and can, in no way, understand how this procedure squares with the oath that all physicians take.

"You do solemnly swear, each man by whatever he holds most sacred

That you will be loyal to the Profession of Medicine and

That you will lead your lives and practice your art in uprightness and honor

That into whatsoever house you shall enter, it shall be for the good of the sick to the utmost of your power, you holding yourselves far aloof from wrong, from corruption, from the tempting of others to vice

That you will exercise your art solely for the cure of your patients, and will give no drug, perform no operation, for a criminal purpose, even if soliCited, far less suggest it

That whatsoever you shall see or hear of the lives of men which is not fitting to be spoken, you will keep inviolably secret

These things do you swear. Let each man bow the head in sign of acquiescence

And now, if you will be true to this, your oath, May prosperity and good repute be ever yours, the opposite, if you shall prove yourselves forsworn."

7 posted on 11/16/2003 8:42:19 AM PST by davisfh
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To: kattracks
"Did I do a 'partial-birth' abortion?" the abortionist asked MSN readers.

          Not from what I understand PBA to be.

 "Will John Ashcroft prosecute me?"

          No, but Newsmax will get a sensationalistic headline out of it.
8 posted on 11/16/2003 8:49:28 AM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
No, but Newsmax will get a sensationalistic headline out of it.

It's not Newsmax's fault that this POS Doctor takes great pride in destroying the lives of unborn babies, is it?

10 posted on 11/16/2003 11:22:27 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: gcruse
No, but Newsmax will get a sensationalistic headline out of it.

Please define "sensationalistic." As I read the doctor's words, I fail to see where NewsMax is sensationalizing anything. The doctor is clearly teasing the issue and he's the one who brought up Ashcroft. Your backhanded jab at NewsMax for sharing this story is unwarranted. Is it agenda driven, perhaps?

11 posted on 11/16/2003 7:47:21 PM PST by Exigence
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