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To: mcg1969
(Luke 16:29 KJV) Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

(Luke 16:30 KJV) And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

(Luke 16:31 KJV) And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.



(Exo 20:9 KJV) Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

(Exo 20:10 KJV) But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

(Exo 20:11 KJV) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.



Creation is the basis for everything

It is why we wear clothes, why we have families, and most importantly, where Sin began, with Adam, not some mythical creature evolved from some ape like creature, but from a man created on Day 6



If you do not believe in Adam, then you do not believe what the Bible says on where sin came from

(Rom 5:12 KJV) Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:



If you dont believe where sin came from, then you have no logical reason to believe in the promise of a Redeemer sent to atone for sin.

(Luke 16:31 KJV) And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.


Those who claim to believe evoution, and in Jesus being the messiah are believing on two diametrically opposite beliefs, two total opposites.
72 posted on 11/16/2003 8:23:06 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
Those who claim to believe evoution, and in Jesus being the messiah are believing on two diametrically opposite beliefs, two total opposites.

First of all, you seem to believe there is only two possibilities: literal 144-hour creation and evolution. That simply is not the case: there is, for example, the "progressive creation" model. I find the progressive creation model of Hugh Ross, for example, quite compelling, and also quite consistent with a day/age reading of Genesis 1.

Secondly, even if God used macroevolution as His method of creation, I don't believe that excludes the intrusion of sin upon the world. Let's not forget that mankind is endowed with a unique gift that no other animal on the planet has: a spirit. It is this spirit that makes sin possible; it is this spirit that is ultimately redeemed by Christ. Thus, it is conceivable that God used evolution as part of His creation miracle, intervening additionally at the emergence of humankind in order to endow him with spirit, and thus make him accountable for sin.

So no, it is not necessarily contradictory to believe in the necessity of Jesus as redeemer and believe in evolution.

But let us suppose for the sake of argument that it is indeed contradictory. Haven't you ever held contradictory thoughts on other issues before? Of course you have. Have you always been 100% logical and consistent in your thinking? Of course you haven't. Thus, since it is possible to hold contradictory thoughts, it is still possible to believe in both the Bible and evolution. It would be incorrect, but possible.

And thankfully, such a person can still be saved, because God does not require us to be 100% correct on secondary issues of theology and doctrine. He only requires that we place our lives in the hands of His Son.

74 posted on 11/16/2003 8:46:10 AM PST by mcg1969
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To: RaceBannon; Just mythoughts; All
the tree where satan tempted and deceived our parents was placed there by the lord (by him all things were created) as a test of obedience....it was the "do it because i said so, because you love me, not because you understand it, or agree with it" moment for created humankind. they (& we) failed the test, so here we are, folks!

of all the ten commandments, the one most like the tree is the 4th. some say any day is ok to worship, or more specifically "rest in the lord", some say every day.

some say the law has changed from OT to NT.... since the ceremonial laws (curtain torn by an invisible hand from top to bottom) and civic laws (i confess there have been times a public stoning would have been emotionally satisfying) have changed.

the special object of satan's wrath, the focus of his greatest deceptive energies has been the keeping of.... the 4th commandment, the seventh day sabbath. why has it changed, (or doesnt really matter).....when all the other commandments are still regarded as being "in force"? (most christians & non-christians agree on all that not killing & stealing & lying & adultery stuff).

because "it is a sign....that you are my people, and i am your god"

75 posted on 11/16/2003 9:34:23 AM PST by 1john2 3and4 ( at ONE with my duality)
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