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To: MEGoody
Yeah, that's what science says. I don't think they know any more than anyone else. They look in telescopes, take measurements, etc. of the now, then presume what happened billions of years ago. A cosmic Ms. Cleo.

That's where we disagree. The same scientific principles have been applied to the understanding of the universe as to the understanding of semiconductor technology -- by people just as smart. The computer you're using is a testament (and I don't use that word lightly) to how powerful these principles are. You might consider that perhaps our current scientific understanding of the universe is also of high quality.

238 posted on 11/17/2003 9:06:45 AM PST by AZLiberty (Where Arizona turns for dry humor)
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To: AZLiberty
Here is a 3 year walk through the confidence you should have in the scientific communities ability to come up with absolute truths.

As I like to say, "Science is fun, and sometimes helpful."

240 posted on 11/17/2003 9:12:06 AM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: AZLiberty
I would also add that being spiritual beings, the Character of a man/woman is far more significant than what we know. Most importantly Christian character is not superior than non-Christians.

One benefit of Christians over non-Christians is the attribution of Jesus Christ's character to our account from a heavenly perspective. Another benifit is that we are no longer slaves to sin, for we have a right spiritual perspective via the Holy Spirit which indwells us and are legitamitly grieved by sin.

A person that has not been born again doesn't have the wholehearted desire to overcome those things they know are wrong. Christians continue to sin daily, but with time and fellowship with God the lure sin has becomes less and less attractive and Holyness replaces former failures.

These tools to a better life now, and a future with God in heaven, are available to all for the asking. The burden for us is light, for Christ begins a good work and is faithful to it's completion.
241 posted on 11/17/2003 9:33:30 AM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: AZLiberty
The same scientific principles have been applied to the understanding of the universe as to the understanding of semiconductor technology -- by people just as smart.They may be very intelligent. However, that does not give them clairvoyance. They can only see the now and guess what happened billions of years ago.
244 posted on 11/17/2003 9:50:06 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: AZLiberty
The same scientific principles have been applied to the understanding of the universe as to the understanding of semiconductor technology -- by people just as smart.

They may be very intelligent. However, that does not give them clairvoyance. They can only see the now and guess what happened billions of years ago.

245 posted on 11/17/2003 9:50:47 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: AZLiberty
The same scientific principles have been applied to the understanding of the universe as to the understanding of semiconductor technology -- by people just as smart.

They may be very intelligent. However, that does not give them clairvoyance. They can only see the now and guess what happened billions of years ago.

246 posted on 11/17/2003 9:50:49 AM PST by MEGoody
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