All of a sudden the Patriot Act isn't just about terrorists anymore

sltrib.com ^ | SATURDAY November 15, 2003 | Clarence Page

[Paleoguy]

You mean to tell me that the government is pushing the envelope to expand its powers to the nth degree? You mean they lied when they said it would just be used against terrorists?? I'm shocked...shocked I say.

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[Steely Glint]

The use of Patriot Act powers for non-national-security reasons is an act of despotism.

If they aren't going to be used *only* for national security reasons, then repeal them.

[Destro]

So that's what makes it patriotic, it gives more strength to the government?

[sinkspur]

If they aren't going to be used *only* for national security reasons, then repeal them.

Strip club money laundering.

Nobody but you seems to have a problem with scooping up this scum.

[ASTM366]

Our federal law enforcement agencies and "Justice" department are full of a**holes who will walk all over your rights in a New York second.

[AdamSelene235]

Well, I don't remember saying that it was. I suppose fighting money laundering could be said to be patriotic in that it protects the coin of the realm.

You're funny.

[wafflehouse]

"The Patriot Act was not meant to be just for terrorism," Department of Justice spokesman Mark Corallo told a reporter

RE: Previous Thread

[lakey]

Protects the coin of the realm! Are you serious? That's the funniest comment I've seen on this forum. Ever!

The new $20s were no sooner printed & in circulation than they were being counterfeited. Billions of our dollars are spread around the world & we have not one whit of control over those monies.

Where are those brilliant minds - IRS, CIA, the State Department - those with the ultimate in computer technology? Oh, yeah, & don't forget our ingenious FBI.

J.Edgar, quit that, you're causing an earthquake.

[lakey]

Oh, really? You mean illegals don't hand over cash to be sent to Mexico, etc., & the receiver doesn't receive cash?

[lodwick]

doh!

Thanks.

[lakey]

No, I'm not trying to get you to defend the Bush Administration. This has been going on a long time before Bush was elected. But he & the Congress could set up strict corporate regulations, then we wouldn't have totally out-of-control Enrons, Global Crossings, etc, or the Citibank type of money laundering.

[oceanview]

once you start exlcuding some crimes, but for example, use the Patriot Act to start reviewing only Muslim run businesses in the US, it will be tossed out on equal protection grounds. or, if money laundering via a strip club flies under the radar, they maybe AQ will start buying strip clubs and using those cash businesses to fund terror cells. Instead of getting cash from an ATM, the next Mohammed Atta could be getting it from Cheetah's.

[WoofDog123]

"So that's what makes it patriotic, it gives more strength to the government?"

They should give over its domestic-crime enforcement to the Ministry of Freedom, or some other such orwellian name

[xzins]

This should be amended so that it applies only to homeland security and not to domestic cases.

Without a clear and convincing connection to terrorism or homeland security, then it should not be in effect.