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To: VU4G10
> ... stop racism and discrimination, ...

We don't care WHAT race you are. How dare you suggest we're racist.
There are illegal aliens from countries all over the world, and of every race. We're just fighting for our sovereignty. If you don't believe we have that right, then you are an enemy of this country.

We don't care if you're from Sweden, India, Columbia, or MARS, but if you are here illegally, we want you gone. Go back, do the paperwork, and get in line. Being in this country (not to mention being a citizen) is not a RIGHT...it is an honor we can bestow upon you if you show good faith. We have enough criminals here. If the first act you do here is to violate a basic law (sovereignty) then what do you expect us to think of you.

> hateful anti-immigrant...

What part of "ILLEGAL" don't you understand? Why do you try to LUMP "illegal alien" issues (as this issue is) with "immigrant" issues (legal immigration, as opposed to criminally invading a sovereign nation)? Why? Because you want to gather more people to your side, so that you can have the power to overrun our sovereignty. If you can get Legal immigrants, Hispanics, and other groups that are NOT part of this issue to think that we are against them, then you can gain their support in numbers. It's trecherous. The issue of ILLEGAL immigrants is just that...no more, no less. (There is also the issue of what levels of LEGAL immigration are beneficial to our country, but that is another issue, NOT the issue here.)
In fact, there are those that focus on the "terrorist" nature of this bad law...which has merit, and is what some people are focussing on with regards to this bad law...but to me, it is the fact that we are legitimizing these illegal criminal aliens, instead of deporting them immediately - treating them like they are part of this country, rather than trespassers who need to be punished & removed. I don't just want a stamp on my license that says "NON-CITIZEN" or ""CITIZEN" (as a poster suggests)...unless there are three stamps that say either: "CITIZEN", "LEGAL NON-CITIZEN", "ILLEGAL NON-CITIZEN"...then when somebody shows their "Illegal" license we can deport them immediately. But I'm being facetious there, of course, the driverse license is a document that we use for all sorts of legal and documentary proof and it can't be negated by it's issuance to illegals of all types.
And what's more:
WE CAN'T WAIT UNTIL MARCH!!!
We can't allow three months of illegal licenses to go out before we recall this law. We must take action that IMMEDIATELY kills this law, well before December 31st. We can't let this genie out of the bottle, because once done, our Driver's Licenses will have lost meaning. Then we will have the problem of creating a whole new identification that is actually worth something, and that would be both a huge expense and great headache for all of us. Let's not keep drawing the line further back, let's just say what is obvious: They shouldn't be here at all, period.
And don't tell me about how we need them. If the price of your lettuce goes up, okay, then you're back to the REAL price of lettuce. Let the illusions go away, and we'll go from there. At some price, I'LL go pick lettuce. At a lower price, some unskilled, unemployed person will pick lettuce. If that higher wage makes lettuce double or triple in price, then you just pay it. We are not socialists, and this is a free economy. Our economy will adjust and we will go forward. We don't need to pay for the welfare and health care for people who will not make the effort to beome "legal"...that is akin to pissing on us, especially on the legal immigrants, who have made that effort.
But don't call us "racists"...we have friends of all races, from all countries, of all skin colors. They just don't happen to be criminals.
"Sailor4321" has it right when he points out that it is discrimination to select out Hispanics to specifically NOT enforce under the law. Can we be done with discrimination, can we be done with racism, can we just be Californians who obey the law?

> The Latino and immigrant communities of California are being attacked...

No you're not. Not unless you're a criminal alien. Why do so many Latinos OPPOSE this law? Why was the opposition of this law seventy-something percent when Davis signed it against the will of the people.

> ... help your community make California a place where we can all just get along.

I'm trying. Support me in enforcing our existing sovereignty laws, punishing businesses that hire illegals, punishing then deporting the illegals themselves, making efforts that create a secure border, stopping efforts of those who show contempt for our sovereignty laws, and speaking up to those who falsely accuse people of being racist. We're tired of that old "racist" ploy, and people are standing up to that diversion and forcing you to confront the truth of the word "illegal" in the term "illegal alien".

But in the meantime - the LEAST we have to do is to STOP this law NOW.
13 posted on 11/15/2003 3:06:31 PM PST by mishka
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To: mishka
We're just fighting for our sovereignty. If you don't believe we have that right, then you are an enemy of this country.

Well put. And I would add so are the politicians who pander to these lawbreakers enemies of the country. If we don't throw them out of office we're going to lose it.

14 posted on 11/15/2003 3:37:52 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: mishka
You can't clean the pool until you empty it.
21 posted on 11/15/2003 10:45:38 PM PST by Old Professer
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