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Placer cities lose appeal over casino
The Sacamenno Bee ^
| Saturday, November 15, 2003
| Steve Wiegand
Posted on 11/15/2003 11:13:01 AM PST by TommyUdo
Edited on 04/12/2004 6:01:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Calling the cities' arguments "nonsensical" and "ahistorical," a federal appeals court has thrown out a lawsuit filed by Rocklin and Roseville against the wildly successful Thunder Valley Casino in Placer County. The 3-0 vote Friday by a U.S. Court of Appeals panel in Washington, D.C., almost certainly ends the cities' costly legal quest to thwart the casino, which is owned by the United Auburn Indian Community.
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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aborginalpeoples; casino; gambling; gaming; indian; nativeamericans; stupidpoliticians; taxevasion
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posted on
11/15/2003 11:13:03 AM PST
by
TommyUdo
To: All
the wildly successful Thunder Valley Casino in Placer County. . . the mammoth casino. . .opened in June to crowds that have continued almost unabated. This helps explain how Placer County led the nation in jobs growth, five percent increase, according to local news reports in adjoining Sacramento County.
To: TommyUdo
That was a real cut-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face course of action by the people who brought that lawsuit. They stood to take in millions for the betterment of their area and now they're stuck with a large legal bill and the possibility of having to pay the tribe's legal bills.
I won't be surprised if any elected officials involved in that mess find themselves out of a job come the next election.
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posted on
11/15/2003 11:52:02 AM PST
by
Prime Choice
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To: Prime Choice
I've been to this casino. It is disgusting. Smoke filled pit full of old ladies being wheeled up to video slot machines so they can dump their last social security check.
And the dump is located right in the middle of the suburbs. Yes, the "tribe" bought up some land in the middle of the burbs, declared it their "reservation", and opened up a casino.
Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
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posted on
11/15/2003 12:34:30 PM PST
by
ambrose
To: WilliamofCarmichael
More accurately, it reflects why they dumped the casino where they did.
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posted on
11/15/2003 12:35:20 PM PST
by
ambrose
To: ambrose
I've been to this casino. It is disgusting. Smoke filled pit full of old ladies being wheeled up to video slot machines so they can dump their last social security check. And this is different from Las Vegas how exactly?
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posted on
11/15/2003 12:36:41 PM PST
by
Prime Choice
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To: Prime Choice
It is different because the entire city of Vegas is a dump built for gamblers. The Thunder Valley casino was plopped down right in the middle of a nice suburban community. You know, the kind of place where people move families to in order to have a nice place to raise kids.
I never had a problem with Indians putting casinos on their reservations -- until they started exploiting loopholes which allow them to buy up any 'ol plot of land and declare it a "reservation". If the Indians can do this (buy land in urban areas and build casinos), we may as well legalize gambling statewide and tax the casinos heavily.
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posted on
11/15/2003 12:43:35 PM PST
by
ambrose
To: ambrose
If the Indians can do this (buy land in urban areas and build casinos), we may as well legalize gambling statewide and tax the casinos heavily. Sounds like a plan to me. I always thought there should be a Stupidity Tax. Up until now, the California Lotto was all the state had to offer.
The more they tax the Stupid, the better off I'll be. : )
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posted on
11/15/2003 12:45:45 PM PST
by
Prime Choice
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To: Prime Choice
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posted on
11/15/2003 12:47:05 PM PST
by
ambrose
To: ambrose
Man are you off base!! I just went there a few weeks ago before returning to Maui and I thought it was big and beautiful. The food was great and I didnt see any cigarette smoke as they have a system that sucks it out of the air. Parking was easy and large and everyone was nice. Me thinks you are just sour on Indian Casinos. My thoughts were, I'm going back there next year on my vacation. IMHO
To: ambrose
This is how Placer voted in the recall election Your point? I always thought Republicans and Conservatives were pro-business with minimal government intervention.
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posted on
11/15/2003 12:51:46 PM PST
by
Prime Choice
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To: Prime Choice
Indian Gaming casinos and sovereign nation status are NOT good things from a Constitutional point of view. It's Red Reparations gone wild. Only a few Indians and tribes make out in these deals. The "tribes" from Las Vegas and Atlantic City and politicians who love that gaming campaign cash are the ones who really prosper.
Go here for some education:
http://www.stopthecasino101.org Oh, and don't play the race card with me. I'm part Ojibwe--through the maternal side. The casino didn't bless my people the Anishinabe. Do a goggle search on articles from the Minnesota newspapers. The tales of embezzlement, drug-money running, prostitution, rising crime statistics, power grabs and sovereign nations being run like mini-dictatorships will wise you up in a hurry.
Indian casinos don't pay taxes and can pretty much do what they want by using their "sovereign nation" status as an effective legal shield. The Mob loves 'em. Cities who pay for the infrastructure and social costs don't. Period.
The only reason they are proliferating is because they have the politicos in their pockets and they scream "racism" if average citizens don't want them in their backyards. Casinos give money to politicians (they can give way more than the average Joe or Pact because of their "special" status) and thus negate a US citizen's rights to self-determination and self-government.
Sorry, Bud, but Slots are not a Native American tradition.
I never understood gamblings allure, but if the majority of citizens vote for it, that's their problem. Problem is, US citizens have very little choice in these Indian casinos at present. I guess if you're mathematically challenged, you'd love one on every corner. It's no way to fund a government--the US or a quasi-sovereign one.
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posted on
11/15/2003 3:07:52 PM PST
by
demnomo
(Nazis were National Socialists not conservative capitalists...)
To: demnomo
Bump!
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posted on
11/15/2003 3:09:53 PM PST
by
ambrose
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