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To: sourcery
I understand what you are saying, but how does that help with the First Amendment? Are you saying that the word "no" meant something different to them than it does to us?

I really don't care how the authors would have understood the words in the Consitution, since the very same words probably meant different things to different people (as they do now). I look only at the words. To me, no means no. To me, any law passed by Congress abridging the freedom of speech is a violation of the First Amendment.

Under your view of intent, how do we deal with words in the Constitution which the authors misundrestood? What if they did a poor job with expressing their desires using the words of the day? Should we jetison the words and go try to figure out what they really meant to say?
51 posted on 11/15/2003 3:12:05 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: BikerNYC
I am not aware of any change in the sense of the word 'no' since the Constitution was written(except when Clinton is speaking.)

The key to understanding my view of intent lies in the distinction between reference and sense. For example, the sense of the word "speech" is an abstract concept. The abstract concept has many potential concrete referents, such as verbal speech, written speech in a newpaper, electronic signals broadcast over radio, etc. My contention is that the word "speech" in the First Ammendment must be understood as the abstract concept "speech," and not as the set of all referents known in the late 18th century.

Under your view of intent, how do we deal with words in the Constitution which the authors misundrestood?

The same way we would deal with such situations in contract law. A contract binds you to the normative sense of what the contract says, not what you may have thought it meant in practice. A contract or a Constitution defines the "rules of the game," not just the specific plays that will be made in a specific instance of the game (although those who write the words are usually motivated by such past specific cases.)

57 posted on 11/15/2003 3:30:49 PM PST by sourcery (No unauthorized parking allowed in sourcery's reserved space. Violators will be toad!)
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