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Teens Turn Legal Plant Into Dangerous Drug
wlky ^ | 11-14-03

Posted on 11/14/2003 9:45:37 AM PST by steppenwolffe

Police: Parents Should Look Out For 'Angel Trumpet.'

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Television station KMBC uncovered a new drug craze that could turn deadly.

The drug, which is ostensibly legal, is made from a plant available at many nurseries. When distilled, toxins in the plant's leaves can cause hallucinations that last for hours or days.

Last month, someone twice stole the plant -- called the Angel Trumpet, Datura or Jimsonweed -- from Johnson County Community College's botanical department. The plant has become such a hot commodity, local nurseries are getting calls from teens who ask how much the plant costs and how they can get one, the station reported.

Jesse Rollwagon, a narcotics detective with the Overland (Kan.) Park Police Department, first took notice of the plant a few months ago.

"Basically, this is just a poison," he said. "It cooks your brains sometimes."

The plant is not smoked, but instead brewed into a tea that can have disastrous results.

Bobby Wainscott, a nurse at the Mid-America Poison Control Center, recently took a call from someone who had taken Angel Trumpet.

"By the time they got him to the hospital an hour later, he was already hallucinating," Wainscott said.

And the hallucinations can be nightmarish and last for hours or sometimes days, the station reported. Those who take the drug are often left seriously ill, combative and uncontrollable. A German teenager who was reportedly high on the drug recently mutilated himself by cutting off his penis and his tongue.

Wainscott said the poison center has taken about 20 calls about Angel Trumpet in the last few months.

Police believe curious kids have been doing research on the Internet and taking it without considering the dangers.

"Word of mouth gets around, gossip gets around. Unfortunately, they don't tell them 'Here's the danger here, here's the danger there,'" Rollwagon said.

Police warned parents to keep an eye out for the new -- and potentially deadly -- drug.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: datura; jimsonweed; wod
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To: tallhappy
Number one, you are an idiot.

Ah yes, the venerable ad hominem. I wouldn't want a day to pass without having the minions of the empire gratuitously insult me.

=snip=

You are ignorant as well. The active ingredients are known, mainly scopalamine and also atropine to a lesser extent. They differ markedly from indole based hallucinogens such as LSD or psilocin.

Ya got me there. I was, in fact, ignorant of the chemical makeup of the active compounds in the plant. Did I claim in my post to be otherwise? Would that be the cause of your uncalled for insults? Thanks for enlightening me. Now that I have some useful names to look up, I can be further educated in the details of the issue at hand at my leisure.

Ignorance of a given subject is easily remedied. The fact that you are an ass is not.

81 posted on 11/15/2003 2:42:42 AM PST by zeugma (If you eat a live toad first thing in the morning, nothing worse will happen all day.)
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To: adam_az
Interesting. After reading some of the posts here, I'd say it sounds like a pretty powerful drug. Three day trips would be a bit on the excessive side imo. Not something I'd have messed with even in my wild and crazy days as that would be way too much time to set aside for a trip. It sounds like dosages would be pretty hard to guage too. The earlier comment about not eating something that a pig won't touch is a darn good rule of thumb. :-)
82 posted on 11/15/2003 2:56:38 AM PST by zeugma (If you eat a live toad first thing in the morning, nothing worse will happen all day.)
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To: zeugma
Ah yes, the venerable ad hominem.

No. An important observation and message to you. Your idiotic statement had nothing to do with the fact that you didn't know the active ingredients of datura. If you don't know what I am specifically referring to read your post again and try to figure it out.

83 posted on 11/15/2003 8:50:27 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: zeugma
The earlier comment about not eating something that a pig won't touch is a darn good rule of thumb. :-)

I wouldn't follow the converse though.... Pigs eat belladonna, which also contains scopalamine and and atropine.
84 posted on 11/15/2003 10:43:33 AM PST by adam_az
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To: buffyt
what kind of thereapy is designed for someone that cuts off his penis and tongue???

just slap him, call him stupid and walk away laughing.
85 posted on 11/15/2003 10:47:55 AM PST by cajun-jack
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To: cajun-jack
seriously, jimson weed grows wild all over northeast Louisiana... we used it all the time when i was growing up..if you got a thorn in your hand or foot or any kind of sore...just crush some leaves from the jimpson weed and hold them on the sore spot for a few minutes...and the thorn would come to the surface or the sore would fester so you you pop it.

didn't take but a few minutes but burned like the dickens.
86 posted on 11/15/2003 10:51:02 AM PST by cajun-jack
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To: piasa
"Kids should stick with smoking Indian cigars and save their brains for calculus."

And never grow up to be taxonomists!

87 posted on 11/15/2003 11:09:00 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: steppenwolffe
I once attended to a 15 year old that had drank jimsom weed tea, If he wasnt having primal screams from the top of his lungs he was Begging GOD to save his life. he had a 200 lb cop ditting on his leg which he lifted the cop in the air and held him there. It took 5 guys to hold this 90 lb kid down. The super stregth is nothing more than the blocking of pain receptors that would make any of us stop lifting before our arms broke. Not these people they will snap their arms under their own strength.
If any of your kids think about doing this.... hold them by the hair and punch them in the face as hard as you can. Then tell them too bad you weren't on jimson weed you wouldn't have felt that.
88 posted on 11/15/2003 11:13:43 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: steppenwolffe
http://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura.shtml

Link to the Datura vault at erowid. Covers nightshade, jimson, brugmansia too.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.cgi?A=Search&S1=15&S2=-1&S3=-1&C1=-1&Str=

Link to Datura experience vailt at erowid.

Professional stoners on closed course. Do not try at home! This can be very dangerous stuff to play with. For starters you can be delerious for a week.

89 posted on 11/17/2003 8:25:46 PM PST by DBrow
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To: GrandMoM
You win my award for funniest post of the day! I don't know why it's funny . . . it just is! Tell us if those gardeners don't make it in, okay?
90 posted on 11/17/2003 8:36:03 PM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: steppenwolffe
called the Angel Trumpet, Datura or Jimsonweed

Wasn't Datura one of the hallucinogens given to Castaneda by his Yaqui mentor in The Teachings of Don Juan?

91 posted on 11/17/2003 8:42:01 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: commish
I like smokin apples. Especially, when they are beneath rubbed baby-back ribs!
92 posted on 11/17/2003 8:50:20 PM PST by Freemeorkillme
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To: zeugma
I don't know what to say about the alleged dangerousness of this drug.

It's very dangerous. Don't worry about it being just alleged --- it really is. It grows all over around this area and there have been a number of deaths from it.

93 posted on 11/17/2003 8:57:00 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Independentamerican
It would be almost impossible to illegalize this weed. I see it growing everywhere --- the flowers are quite pretty, I imagine plenty of people just pick the flowers --- but don't smoke them. I'm sure my kids have picked the flowers from this weed the way kids will when making a bouquet.
94 posted on 11/17/2003 9:00:29 PM PST by FITZ
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