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1 posted on 11/14/2003 3:44:04 AM PST by buffyt
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Thursday, November 13, 2003
Students call Dean posters a hoax
By Steven Orbuch, The Dartmouth Staff

Students from Generation Dean denied responsibility for the posters.
Yesterday morning, Dartmouth students awoke to find posters -- complete with Confederate flag backgrounds -- advertising today's lecture by Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean on bulletin boards across campus. The poster, which purported to be an ad created by the Dean campaign on campus, was a hoax and neither Generation Dean nor the Young Democrats was involved in its creation, according to Young Democrats President Paul Heintz '06.

"Whoever is doing this is engaging in the most negative form of campaigning imaginable or participating in the most awful sort of prank," Heintz said.

Heintz said that he found out about the posters early Wednesday morning via blitzmail. Heintz also said that he is particularly concerned that many students actually think that the flyers were made by either the Young Democrats or Generation Dean.

"I actually got a blitz to the Young Democrats account saying that they were offended by the posters that we put up," Heintz said.

Though the posters had a visible presence throughout campus, Heintz said that he was uncertain as to how many of these posters were actually distributed.

He said, however, that he is almost sure that most of them have been taken down because he blitzed the presidential candidate campaign managers on campus asking them to remove any of the posters that they saw.

According to Heintz, campaign managers have informed him that they had located and removed the Confederate flag posters in locations such as Novack Café, Baker and Berry Libraries and a handful of dormitories.

Cayelan Carey '06 of Generation Dean said that she thinks that the poster issue has been drastically blown out of proportion. She said that she doubts that the poster will have a negative impact on Dean support. "If someone stops and sees the sign then they might be confused if they are not familiar with the campaign," Carey said.

Carey said that the premise of there actually being a Confederate flag on a Dean campaign poster is essentially a joke.

According to Carey, if one were to actually sit down and read the speech by Dean which the flag is poking fun at they would understand that the accusations implied by use of a Confederate flag on the posters are completely false.

Most people who were aware of the Dean poster hoax said that they consider it to be an gross affront to Generation Dean and the Young Democrats.

Bush campaign representative and Dartmouth Review Publisher Michael Ellis '06 said that the poster was unethical even though he thought the Confederate backdrop was a clever way to critique Dean's recent "demeaning comments about southerners," because it falsely represented Generation Dean as its creator. "It is wrong to put someone's name on something that they did not sponsor," Ellis said.

Greg Klein '04 of Generation Dean also said that he was troubled by the fact that someone tried to pass off the posters as an actual Dean advertisement. However, Klein said that he was not worried that the posters may have been meant to insult his student group.

"This posters speaks more of the person who created it than of whom it is directed at," Klein said.


2 posted on 11/14/2003 3:45:24 AM PST by buffyt (Howard Dean opens his mouth only to CHANGE FEET!)
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To: buffyt
How delightfully disrespectful.
3 posted on 11/14/2003 3:46:19 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: buffyt
" [Dean] Spokesman Matthew Gardner later dismissed the incident as "a political trick. And it's sad that whoever is behind this felt forced to resort to misrepresentation.""

Amazing. That's exactly my interpretation of the Dean campaign.

8 posted on 11/14/2003 4:02:55 AM PST by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: buffyt
...it's sad that whoever is behind this felt forced to resort to misrepresentation."

This from a candidate who regularly says that George Bush said that the threat from Iraq was immenent. I guess misrepresentation is bad only when directed at a Democrat. But then, we knew that, didn't we?

9 posted on 11/14/2003 4:51:56 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: stainlessbanner
A "Good Morning" bump to ya, sir!
11 posted on 11/14/2003 5:26:10 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: buffyt
This may just be the "gaffe that wouldn't go away" for Dean, somewhat similar to the Dukakis tank ride. It will haunt Him for the whole campaign, forming a distraction that will crowd out his "message" (imho). If it does, it serves Him right, for such a blatant and crass attempt to pander to southern voters.
12 posted on 11/14/2003 5:30:35 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (somebody should drive the "general lee" past his next speaking engagement!)
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To: buffyt
Mr. Dean has a significant public relations problem on his hands. And since the liberal media wouldn't let go of Dan Quayle's spelling peccadillo, I suggest that conservatives jump on a much more serious statement by Dean - and not let go.
20 posted on 11/14/2003 6:47:57 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: buffyt
Now why didn't I think of that.
21 posted on 11/14/2003 6:51:31 AM PST by 1Old Pro (ESPN now has 4 little wimpy sissies left. I'm switching back to FOX.)
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To: buffyt
What is funny is this: The guys with teh flag may not have been conseravtives and may actually be Dean supporters.
Just a bit off balance in their support.
*chuckle*
If they're not conservatives, they will be soon.
Lib-think does not approve of being shown the light of truth, nor does it approve of any form of perceived mockery.
23 posted on 11/14/2003 7:04:49 AM PST by Darksheare (Proving that there are alternate perceptions of surreality Since Oct 2, 2000.)
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To: buffyt
earlier post: FREEPERS in NH? - Dean Pays Filing Fee Amid White Sheets and Confederate Flags.
24 posted on 11/14/2003 7:05:55 AM PST by Xthe17th (The War Between The States was not a civil war.)
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To: buffyt
For many people, the Confederate battle flag stands for regional pride and even for resistance to neo-imperialist corporatism and cultural homogenization. For these people, it is nearly the opposite of an "American swastika".

I grew up in a state with both a Rebel and a Yankee heritage, so I know. And even President Harry S Truman, who integrated the armed forces, had a picture of Robert E Lee in his office in the White House!

27 posted on 11/14/2003 7:16:10 AM PST by Honorary Serb
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