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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 14-18
Various | November 14, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/14/2003 2:06:57 AM PST by sweetliberty

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To: nicmarlo
"I was right the first go around.....I'm going to get some more coffee now...."

LOL! That's what happens when you post before you can see. I know, because I have a tendency to do it myself. Better make it a double.

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461 posted on 11/15/2003 7:32:26 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: nicmarlo
How appropriate.
462 posted on 11/15/2003 7:35:08 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: nicmarlo
LOL...... your very welcome!!
463 posted on 11/15/2003 7:37:26 AM PST by Snykerz
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To: nicmarlo
I don't think this article has been linked here yet:

Terri's family appeals to Oprah fans

464 posted on 11/15/2003 7:38:00 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
That's what happens when you post before you can see.

And before the cobwebs have a chance to clear out in the morning.....better give me the whole pot, lol! : )

465 posted on 11/15/2003 7:44:27 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Snykerz; sweetliberty
sweetliberty has gotten used to my occasional "oops" and they're always first thing in the a.m.! hmmmmm, wonder why that is? (I think it must be lack of coffee before posting!!) : )
466 posted on 11/15/2003 7:45:54 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Can anyone get this page to load??
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0347/hentoff.php

It is something about A federally funded investigation: against Michael Schaivo:

This is all I get:

A federally funded investigation has begun into certain medical judgments made
by her husband and guardian, Michael Schiavo, including decisions in recent ....
467 posted on 11/15/2003 7:56:49 AM PST by Snykerz
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To: nicmarlo
Thank you for posting this nicmarlo. Kieth Green was one of my favorite Christian singers. This is a great song.
468 posted on 11/15/2003 8:01:13 AM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: Snykerz
Was Terri Schiavo Beaten in 1990?
Will There Be an Investigation in Time?
November 14th, 2003 5:30 PM


There is a new dimension in the fierce battle over whether Terri Schiavo's life is worth saving. A federally funded investigation has begun into certain medical judgments made by her husband and guardian, Michael Schiavo, including decisions in recent months. But more important is whether the inquiry will discover what actually caused Terri Schiavo's alleged cardiac arrest in 1990, which is said to be the reason her brain was deprived of oxygen, resulting in her condition for the past 13 years.

go here, on FR, for complete posted article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1022169/posts
469 posted on 11/15/2003 8:02:36 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Chocolate Rose
ping
470 posted on 11/15/2003 8:03:10 AM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: pollywog
He was also one of my favorites. I got to see him play once, at Knott's Berry Farm (CA), I believe. He was awesome.
471 posted on 11/15/2003 8:03:29 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Thank you very much... my computer seems to be stuck on stupid at the moment and is having trouble loading some pages...LOL
472 posted on 11/15/2003 8:04:40 AM PST by Snykerz
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To: Snykerz
my computer seems to be stuck on stupid at the moment

yw; my computer's been 'stuck on stupid' all week! In fact, it was sooo stupid the other day, it decided to stop being online and wouldn't let me back on.....and was even being quite contrary to what I was telling it to do. : ) I think it's because my computer is into "ME." I definitely need to get a different operating system, since "ME" is so stuck on itself.

473 posted on 11/15/2003 8:07:57 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Snykerz
my computer seems to be stuck on stupid at the moment

yw; my computer's been 'stuck on stupid' all week! In fact, it was sooo stupid the other day, it decided to stop being online and wouldn't let me back on.....and was even being quite contrary to what I was telling it to do. : ) I think it's because my computer is into "ME." I definitely need to get a different operating system, since "ME" is so stuck on itself.

474 posted on 11/15/2003 8:07:59 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Snykerz
ROFL! As you can see, it now double-posted. My computer is more than stupid!
475 posted on 11/15/2003 8:08:41 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Budge
We are fighting demons from hell , and the destroyer ITself
here, remember 911. & Rev ,ch9 ver 11. This is our test.
476 posted on 11/15/2003 8:08:59 AM PST by Orlando
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To: Theodore R.
Killing Terri (and others earlier, we have learned)

I have missed a lot the past few days. Can you direct me to the other info....I never thought Terri was the first.
477 posted on 11/15/2003 8:10:45 AM PST by tutstar
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To: pc93
Reposting your post from last thread here. I find the incestuous connections between greer, felos, suncoast hospice curious as well as highly suspicious.

The money MS won to rehabilitate Terri being used, instead, to pay for a death merchant attorney is ASTOUNDING!

The timeline-chilling.

Would you happen to know Judge Baird's email address? Thanks. And Jeb Bush's attorneys need to be aware of the incestuous associations between suncoast hospice and the players in this mighty spiritual/political battle.

Also-can it be shown that Felos has anything to do with adding sustanence (food) to the extraordinary measures bill rergarding disabled patients?

Interesting Timeline
Posted By: Frank
Date: Thursday, 13 November 2003, at 4:15 p.m.

Many people, groups, and the media have harshly critcized Jeb Bush and the Florida legistature for passing "Terri's Bill", claiming among other things that it is uncostitutional to pass a law that applies only to one person.

Consider this timeline:

May 1997 - Deborah Bushnell send a leter to Judge Shames (he was before Judge Greer) saying that the Schindlers should be involved in Terri's care during her final days (since Michael intends to move Terri to hospice and remove her feeding tube).

Aug. 1997 - Felos sends a letter to the Schindler's notifying them of pending action to remove Terri's feeding tube.

May 1998 - George Felos is hired and files a petition in Court to remove Terri's feeding tube.

April 6, 1999 - House Bill 2131 was introduced in the legislature by the Florida Elder Affairs & Long-Term Care Committee to amend Section 765 (Civil Rights) of the Florida Statutes. two weeks later, the legislature Committee on Judiciary recommmended that House Bill 2131 should also change the Section 765.101 legal definition of life prolonging procedures to add: "INCLUDING ARTIFICIALLY PROVIDED SUSTENENCE AND HYDRATION, WHICH SUSTAINS, RESTORES, OR SUPPLANTS A SPONTANEOUS VITAL FUNCTION".

Oct 1, 1999 - Senate Bill 2228 (formerly HB2131) becomes law changing Section 765.101 of the Florida Statutes to include the above.

Jan 24, 2000 - Trial begins to decided whether to remove Terri's feeding tube.

Feb 11, 2000 - Judge Greer orders that Terri's feeding tube can be removed.

If you followed the timeline, Felos filed a petition to remove Terri's feeding tube BEFORE the law was changed, and the trial began AFTER the law was changed (and Greer approved removal of the tube).

Why is that? Did the Florida legislature knowingly or unknowingly pass a law that would apply specifically to Terri? I don't think there were any other hotly contested "right to die" cases at that time. (The cases of Cruzan, Bludworth, and Browning were decided years before). I wonder who paid-off or influenced who to get the law changed?

And here's some very interesting reading that might help answer that question (link below). Scroll down about half-way to "They make it all possible". They make it all possible:

Congressman Bilirakis congressman for many years. Now his son Gus Michael Bilirakis serves on the Suncoast Hospice Board of Directors.

There are actually three boards because there are profits and non-profits.

The salaries at the top are sky high."

Barbara Sheehan Todd also serves on the Hospice Board. She was a County Commissioner the same time (1980-98) Judge Greer was a Pinellas county commissioner from 1984-92.

Judge Greer was a zoning lawyer.

http://www.sptimes.com/News/042801/TampaBay/Judge_George_Greer.shtml

Atty George Felos sat on the Hospice Board Felos has been paid approximately $550,000.00 Judge Greer used to be on Hospice's Board too (ED: Chairman of the Board)

Martha Lenderman - outgoing chairman of hospice, chair for 2 years, is sister of Judge John Lenderman (Family Law Division with Judge Greer)

Richard M Jerger, Jr (was a president of Pinellas Independent Agents, Inc in 1990-1991) is a holder in the PHILADELPHIA CONSOLIDATED HOLDING CORP which bought out Jerger and Sons. insured mobile homes

Raymond Blacklidge is a registered lobbyist in the Florida Legislature who works for the Jerger Company. Blacklidge is a Business Partner to Richard Jerger, who is an Insurance Executive selling mobile home insurance in the state of Florida. Jerger somehow became the Business Partner to Michael Schiavo.

Jodi Centonze is Michael Schiavo's domestic partner and now mother of his 2 children.

http://pao.co.pinellas.fl.us/htbin/cgi-scr3?o=1&a=1&b=1&r=&s=1&u=0&p=29+28+16+61655+000+0390267%2C302337%2C661&name=View

Barry G. Wilkinson registered agent for Jerger Ins.

Judge Greer and Robert Wharrie (hospice) are on the same dicussion PANEL!! Almost at the bottom of the page

http://www.clwbar.org/resipsa/december-january02/article462.html .

The Mcconihay Greer Connection Together on the board of "Suncoast Christian Camps Inc"... with GREER as registered agent.. The Damonte -Mcconihey connection

The Damonte - Mcconihay corp is called "Approved Management Corporation"...

Jonathan Damonte -lawyer for the Mobile home association, is connected to Greer through a business partner, Stephen McConihey

2nd Felon Gets 2nd Chance at Hospice

A payroll worker is the second employee the hospice hired in recent years despite a criminal record.

-After pleading guilty to felony grand theft in 2001 and being sentenced to five years of probation, (she used company credit card to use for work purchases to charge $7,791 for personal items before getting caught.) Karen Langan was looking for a new job.

-Another employee, Susan A. Wynn, pleaded guilty in Georgia to embezzlement in 1996 after admitting that she stole $370,000 from a public agency. Wynn, who served prison time and is on probation, works as an administrative assistant to the hospice's vice president of finance.

Link:St Petersburg Times Online

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/06/26/Northpinellas/
2nd_felon_gets_2nd_ch.shtml

Based on his testimony promising rehabilitation services for Terri, in part, the malpractice jury awarded Mr. Schiavo $1,200,000.00, of which approximately $700,000.00 was placed in a trust fund for Terri's support and maintenance.

Terri has not been certified as "Terminally ill" as required by federal regulations for the use of federal funds for hospice care, yet has resided at Hopsice Woodside since March or April, 2000.

I am way past the blur stage. Who knew we would uncover so many complexities and turf wars between Hospice and former employees? This is a major legal-medical situation with political overtones without taking into account religious implications

478 posted on 11/15/2003 8:11:32 AM PST by Republic
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To: Mo1
2004
479 posted on 11/15/2003 8:11:55 AM PST by tutstar
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To: Republic
George J. Felos said on several interview programs that in FL "PVS" is equivalent legally to "terminally ill." Some people in FL really believe "in" George J. Felos. Do you think George J. Felos has a "living will" for himself?
480 posted on 11/15/2003 8:21:23 AM PST by Theodore R.
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