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To: flashbunny
Any fact I state fits the story. Jefferson was an outstanding rhetoritician, lousy governor and poor president. My opinion of him has dropped as I have learned more about him. It is important to pay more attention to what he actually DID rather than what he SAID.

but I am sure you prefer the mythological Jefferson rather than the flesh and blood man.
712 posted on 02/02/2004 2:21:48 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Any fact I state?" Actually, you don't bother to 'state facts.'

;>)

713 posted on 02/02/2004 6:24:29 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("[The militiaman] will assure himself... of his future tranquility." - Comte de Guibert, 1771)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Well, I'm sure you prefer a constitution that can be suited to your current whim than what the founding fathers actually intended it to be. Founding fathers that fought against a tyrant that ruled over them, yet you seem to think they would only think a 'free state' needs to be protected from a foreign enemy, instead of that they learned from experience it is also necessary to protect themselves from a corrupt government. Or maybe Benjamin franklin answered 'A republic, if you can keep it', only because we had to be vigilant against foreign enemies.

Anyway, don't bother responding, because I've looked through your previous 'debates' on this thread and it proves any attempt to use logic on you is useless. 'Facts' only matter when they can be twisted to suit your viewpoint, and any facts presented by someone who doesn't agree with you are unimportant or to be disregarded. In short, I'm going to cut my lossses now, because I waste any more time on a lost cause. But enjoy making things up and imagining the founding fathers didn't mean what they said or wrote. But just be aware people who know the truth can easily see through you. You're not as clever as you think.

715 posted on 02/02/2004 7:02:34 PM PST by flashbunny ("Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." -Mark Twain)
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