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To: Abundy
Laz, the problem with your "logic" is that while Jsuati might not know who this person is

Nossir, that was not the thrust of my argument. That was an incidental comment. Consider my argument without that incidental thought and my logic should be clear.

The thrust of my argument was that Jsuati would need, by necessity of tpaines conclusion, to NOT LIKE Phil Snead because G.W. Bush does not. This conclusion cannot follow, because it is fallicious.

570 posted on 11/18/2003 1:09:51 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY SCARING FELLOW FREEPERS SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: Lazamataz; justshutupandtakeit; Abundy
Laz, in your efforts to appear clever, you only demonstrate your own ignorance.

Jsuati supports George W. Bush.

George W. Bush supports the AW ban.

Therefore, Jsuati supports [the man in signing] the AW ban.

Case closed.




Jsuati supports George W. Bush.

George W. Bush does not like Phil Snead of Crawford, Texas.

Therefore, Jsuati does not like Phil Snead of Crawford, Texas.


Note that all I have done is removed the term AWB and substituted an arbitrary person's name, thusly keeping as close to the form of your retroductive fallacy of soundness.






Laz, the problem with your "logic" is that while Jsuati might not know who this person is, the AWB and Bush's position on it are very public knowledge, therefore the illustration above is not relevant to your disagreement with tpaine unless Jsuati states that he/she is not familiar with the AWB and Bush's support of that bill.
563 -Abundy-





Nossir, that was not the thrust of my argument. That was an incidental comment.
Consider my argument without that incidental thought and my logic should be clear.

The thrust of my argument was that Jsuati would need, by necessity of tpaines conclusion, to NOT LIKE Phil Snead because G.W. Bush does not.

This conclusion cannot follow, because it is fallicious.




The quesion is not whether "Jsuati does not like Phil Snead of Crawford, Texas."

It is whether "Jsuati supports [the man in signing] the AW ban."

He does indeed, -- he just admitted it again.


"--- I will vote for Bush whether or not he signs such a bill if it is voted out of Congress. --"
576 -justshutupandtakeit-

Case closed.

587 posted on 11/18/2003 3:43:35 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Rickenbacker in me.)
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