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To: 45Auto
"Bush's Un-doing?"....I dunno about that
His pop signed a law banning imported military look alike semi autos that was sneaked through congress in the middle of a Sunday night...
That wasnt his un-doing
Ahnold holds the uber left wing view of Americans owning firearms..(no one but the elite should privately own weapons)
All conservatives knew this about Arnnie in advance and still voted for him...
I know quite a few gun owners who dont believe that anyone should own "assault rifles" (which the banned arent in the first place) or high capacity handguns..
They will still vote for GW regardless..
One thing for sure there is gonna be some heavy debating...by the "Lying & Bowling for Columbine" crowd...
41 posted on 11/13/2003 1:11:16 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: joesnuffy
That's a good way to look at it. If some number of "conservatives" vote against principle, I should as well, because going along with the crowd makes it alright.
62 posted on 11/13/2003 1:22:18 PM PST by cryptical
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To: joesnuffy
All conservatives knew this about Arnnie in advance and still voted for him...
No, "all conservatives" did not vote for him.

74 posted on 11/13/2003 1:40:43 PM PST by AnnaZ (::: RADIOFR :: Hi-Fi FReepin' 24/7 ::: http://www.theotherradionetwork.com/pgs/rfr_schedule.htm :::)
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To: joesnuffy
Ahnold holds the uber left wing view of Americans owning firearms..(no one but the elite should privately own weapons) All conservatives knew this about Arnnie in advance and still voted for him...

The important lesson from that election was that even with a wildly popular Republican in what was thought to be a close election, 13% of Californians voted for a true conservative candidate. This is almost as great a margin as Ronald Reagan won in 1984. Furthermore, a high level of dissatisfaction among the base opens up the possibility of an effective third party candidate who can triangulate the president and take even more votes (think Perot).

It is in the interest of all Republicans and conservatives to make sure that the Republican party doesn't loose its base. We must remember that unlike liberal voters, many conservative voters put principles and issues over party affiliation and political expediency. They simply won't vote for a public official who undermines their ideals, and beating them up about it won't will only alienate them further. Whether the Republican candidate has a better fiscal policy or whether he may or may not appoint better judges doesn't matter if they are no better on these critical issues. Nor will the idea that Republican Party just needs to compromise its principles to win now and will become more conservative later. The base is composed of voters, and like any other political demographic they can't be neglected or forfeited and expected to turn out to vote and volunteer.

The more the president moves to the center to capture undecided and swing voters, the more he will loose from his base. We all should contact the president (and other Republican candidates) to make sure that this doesn't happen.

109 posted on 11/13/2003 2:39:36 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: joesnuffy
"All conservatives knew this about Arnnie in advance and still voted for him"

This is one that didn't and wouldn't under any circumstances. I for one did my best to tell everyone that he was a no good socialist but they voted for him anyway out of sheer mindless fear!
149 posted on 11/13/2003 5:07:39 PM PST by dalereed (,)
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