The Assault Weapons Ban May Be Bush's Undoing

TooGood Reports ^ | 13 November 2003 | Lee R Shelton IV

[Spok]

"The assault weapons ban is history as of next year."

I agree. I think both parties would just as soon stay away from the RKBA, especially in post 9/11 America. And this will be even more the case if there's another terrorist attack on American soil.

And BTW, has it occured to the OBL crowd that another attack on the U.S. would probably sound the death knell of the democRATs? It may have already.

[cryptical]

That's a good way to look at it. If some number of "conservatives" vote against principle, I should as well, because going along with the crowd makes it alright.

[45Auto]

I need to know why the assault weapons ban should be repealed. Is it a "slippery slope" argument?

Over the last several decades, RKBA advocates and 2nd amendment rights' supporters have seen the slow whitering of the RKBA and the slow withering and increased 'gun control' which will inevitably lead to an attempt at a total ban, a national "needs based" licensing system, a national registration database (some say it already exists; it certainly does in California), and perhaps a confiscation. Those enemies of freedom have nothing to lose; all they need is patience, while we lose the RKBA slowly over the years. Look where gun rights were prior to 1968 and compare that to where we are today.

Its true that some great progress has been made in the number of states that now have a "shall issue" CCW laws; these have been interpreted as a "turning of the tide" against private gun ownership. That is true to some extent, but when the government has totally changed the RIGHT to keep and bear to the PRIVILEGE to keep and bear, then "What the government giveth, the goverment can take away."

One federal law is all it would take to negate every state's CCW issuance.

The sunsetting will be more than symbolic; it will mark a REAL turning point in the right to arms, so basic to the liberty of the citizens of the Republic. And we cannot ever expect that any member of the RAT party leadership will ever stop trying to destroy the private ownership of guns. The minute those "fine gentlemen" regain control of government, they will once again start hammering the RKBA. So in the meantime, it would be nice to see a gesture of "rolling back" egregious gun laws on the part of the Repubo Party, the self-appointed "party of freedom".

[thiscouldbemoreconfusing]

The assault weapons ban is history as of next year. It wont be re-authorized.

Why do you say that? How can you be that sure?

[ArrogantBustard]

Frank Wolf is usually reliable, as is George Allen. Rino John Warner, OTOH is a squishy liberal. I don't send him the same sort of message as the other two.

[thiscouldbemoreconfusing]

If he signs a reupping of the AW ban or appoints gun grabbing judges(like Reinhardt), he'll lose my vote. If not, I'll hold my nose one more time.

He signed the ban on partial birth abortion, now if he lets John Ashcroft fight for it, he'll have my bvotes, but, I do not envy those who come to take my guns.

[Dan from Michigan]

Warner is very anti-gun unfortunatly.

[ColdSteelTalon]

I hope Mr. Bush would re-consider. I will pray that he will uphold the constitution and allow no restriction on firearms for law abiding people.

Also we need to talk about as a nation a way for those who have transgressed the law to have their rights restored if they have proven that they can live clean.

[Badray]

"Then we'll have a Clinton or Clintonlike candidate who'll take away all guns."

If GWB renews or extends the ban, why does he deserve our vote?

Would you tell your wife or girlfriend that you will stay with her even if she cheats on you?

Why would you stay with a president that takes your freedom from you?

[ArrogantBustard]

John Warner is also so entrenched that last year the 'Rats didn't bother to run anyone against him. I voted (write in) for Oliver North ...

[B4Ranch]

You would prefer to lose your rights a little at a time? Or would you prefer a President who abolishes the 2nd completely thereby bringing about a revolt? Don't forget the purpose of the 2nd, it's not so we can go duck hunting!

[donozark]

In 1996 House voted 239-173 in favor of repeal of AW Ban. If anything, Republicans in House are more pro-RKBA than in 1996. This Ban will sunset/expire next fall, period. Tom Delay will see to it.

If not? "I'll see you on the beach..."

[Badray]

I can't believe what a bunch of pussies we have on this thread!

WTF would you reward a pol who takes away your guns?

At the very least, he should be wondering about whether he will lose your vote if he signs an extension of the law.

To promise him your vote now because you are afraid of the consequences gives him carte blanche to do whatever he wants. He can pander to the left to try to take their issues, but the result is that you still lose your guns and your freedom.

Some of you people better go buy extra knee pads. You're gonna need them.

[AnnaZ]

All conservatives knew this about Arnnie in advance and still voted for him...

No, "all conservatives" did not vote for him.

[meenie]

You get to vote personally when they come after your assault weapon. You can knuckle under or give them the bullets as well as the assault piece.

[sheltonmac]

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[itsahoot]

Good analysis, hard for your enemies to $crew you, but friends, well that is another matter entirely, isn't it?

[Sender]

Yeah, that'll teach em! Meanwhile Hillary will loot and pillage our remaining freedoms. But we will have a clear conscience, knowing we didn't vote for someone who signed the AW ban.

Seriously, the AW ban as it is does little more than annoy the heck out of me. The AW ban 'strengthened' as Feinstein and Schumer want it signed would be terrible. As sure as the sun rises, any bill that makes it to Bush's desk will be 'strengthened', count on it.

[NY.SS-Bar9]

Gun owners are to the Republican party as Blacks are to the Democrats. Taken for granted because they believe they have no where else to go.

Until we take a stand, we will have no power.

The obvious problem is that by taking a stand we elect those opposite our intentions. If that "gets their attention", it may be worth the price.

[Badray]

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