The Assault Weapons Ban May Be Bush's Undoing

TooGood Reports ^ | 13 November 2003 | Lee R Shelton IV

[jmc813]

Yes, and after the firearms, they'll repeal the tax cuts, raise taxes, undo the partial birth abortion ban, raise taxes, defund the military again, raise taxes, undermine home schooling and vouchers, raise taxes, appoint socialist judges and justices, raise taxes, give licenses and voting rights to illegals, raise taxes, fund NPR, attack religion, raise taxes, create new government agencies instead of consolidating them, raise taxes,......but they love you.

If they end up banning firearms, they're gonna have a hell of a lot more important things to worry about than your examples, if you catch my drift...

[Badray]

"It would cost the President few, if any, votes."

538 votes just might be enough to cost him reelection.

[spunkets]

"Only his personality was able to overcome the phobia against conservatives so pervalent in America."

There's no phobia against conservatives. The voters want economic tidbits, real, or imagined tossed their way. Bush gave them some.

"Dems did not lose in '94 because of an AW ban but because of the Hillary care scam and the generally sleaziness of the Clinton administration."

Both were significant factors.

"blustering nutcases threatening to vote against Bush and empower these fools is so dangerous."

It appears that the House will not reauthorize it on their own. It's in your interest and President Bush's interest to make sure that law dies.

[Dan from Michigan]

Given the state of the RATmedia influence on the American electorate today election of a more conservative man than Bush is impossible. You are fantasizing if you believe otherwise.

You are overestimating the media, and I think you're giving the sucker moms way too much power. They are overrated.

I'm not fantasizing anything. Look up the demographics of the areas. If Bush gets an anti-gun rep, he can kiss Michigan, West Virginia, and Pennsylvania goodbye just like that. He may win the sucker moms...at the cost of the "union independents" as well as his base.

Only his personality was able to overcome the phobia against conservatives so pervalent in America.

He's a moderate, but had a arch-conservative REPUTATION. His personality was hit and miss as well. Some loved it, others hated it. My rep(Mike Rogers) was much more conservative than Bush, but ran 5% ahead of him because of his personality. Rogers won by 88 votes, and was given a better district by redistricting.

I doubt even one RAT lost his seat because of that ban.

Jack Brooks. Eric Fingerhut. Frank McCloskey. Harris Wolford. Wyche Fowler. Jim Sassar. That's off the top of my head.

BTW - Republicans need to get about 63% in my county to win statewide. A good solid conservative will get 63% with a good campaign. A liberal Republican(pro-abortion) gets 53%. Bush got 60% in 2000.

[Consort]

If they end up banning firearms, they're gonna have a hell of a lot more important things to worry about than your examples, if you catch my drift...

It appears that they are doing just that as we speak....little by little, law by law, state by state, day by day. And they will milk the process by collecting gun fees from licenses, permits, etc.

[Badray]

I really don't care how you took Bush's statement. He said it and no matter what spin you put on it, he still said it.

If you want the GOP to be true believers that gun control is a losing issue, then what you need to do if Bush signs an extension or renewal is to VOTE HIM OUT OF OFFICE. That will prove the point.

The only thing that keeps politicians in line is the fear of losing their precious jobs. Hold that over their head and you have a better chance of getting what you want. Promising to vote for someone regardless of what he does to you, is simply stupid.

They are not our masters. They are elected representives. Our employees, if you will. Don't treat them like the kings that want to be.

We survived the first clinton. It was ugly, but we survived. If we accept an AWB from a pubbie, then we get what we deserve.

[The_Eaglet]

So do I.

[T Wayne]

Yes, I voted for him. If I had heard that signing an ext. of the AWB was on his aggenda, I would not have voted for him.

[T Wayne]

I think the Instant Check system is a good thing.

It sure does a good job of keeping criminals from getting guns, doesn't it? < /sarcasm >

[T Wayne]

Should traitors infiltrate the American government...

They're already there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Travis McGee]

I can't speak for Chicago, but here in California and Arizona, police most certainly ARE killed by routinely, if monthly is enough to be called routine.

[Travis McGee]

Killed by illegal aliens, I meant.

[The_Eaglet]

We can elect someone much more conservative if he sells the package correctly. Bush is PERCEIVED as much more conservative than he really is.

Those of us who would agree with such a candidate need to sell his package correctly, too. The liberal mass media may misrepresent (or not present) his package, so that leaves supporters to create and use other channels to identify his campaign (or potential campaign).

[Travis McGee]

Tell you what I'll take an assault rifle and you take the blunderbuss w. nails at 100 feet and we will see who survives.

I'll take that bet if I get modern medical care, and you get to die in screaming agony from sepsis after a few days.

[whd23]

[spunkets]

Excellent.

[ArneFufkin]

Lets see, according to your profile you left the Democrat Party ten years ago over RKBA. Now, you're going to leave the GOP over the same issue.

Who the hell needs, or wants, you?

[IGOTMINE]

Then let that day come. (And yes, I mean what you think I mean by that statement.)

[justshutupandtakeit]

Not likely while you would be dead almost immediately it would be unlikely I would even be hit.

[DBrow]

"Militas now are limited to "well-regulated" militias which "

If you go back and look at the phrase "well regulated", you will see that in the late 1700's, clocks, cannon, rifles, and archers were referred to as "well regulated". It meant accurate, not as complying with lots of regulations.

It meant that the militias were trained in marksmanship.