Posted on 11/13/2003 7:41:48 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper
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TUL, Check out the link. Scroll to the "child abuse" section and pick an article. The predisposition of those who practice homosexual behavior to also molest children is proven fact
On the contrary, it shows the intolerance of the homosexual community in our notably socialist capitol for anyone who does not "celebrate" their lifestyle.
Dump the United Way. Give to the Scouts directly.
A United Way Capital Area partner agency http://www.uway-austin.org/communityinvestmentfund/partneragencies/junior_league_of_austin.htm :
The Junior League of Austin: Hispanic Mother/Daughter Program offers support services and resources to its student participants, preparing them for college with the assistance of their mothers.
client eligibility: Hispanic girls at targeted schools (eight middle schools and five high schools in Austin ISD)
Considering that homosexuals make up 1-2% of the population, I would expect this would be true.
The question is, what percentage of homosexual men molest children (under 18) compared to the percentage of heterosexual men who molest children.
For the answer, I turn you over to the expert on homosexual statistics.
Scripter?
Shalom.
You must not have been a Boy Scout, because had you been, youd know from experience how preposterous that suggestion is.
The Scouts are no more set up to treat homosexuality than they are set up to handle juvenile delinquents. Those problems are completely outside of their intended purpose.
Let me tell you, having a declared homosexual join the Scouts would be very disruptive influence. A homosexual boy would be subjected to some rough treatment by the other kids and have no one to share a tent with, etc. The shower room would clear out when he'd show up, or worse yet, he'd get some rough treatment if he tried to enter. You may say its not fair, but it is realty.
As far as I'm concerned, homosexuality is a serious mental disorder. It's not up to the Scouts to accommodate it. If he's on a structured road to recovery and no longer identifies as a homosexual, that's another story and perhaps certain accommodations could be made. But, that should be left up to the troop, not someone forcing an agenda on them.
I appreciate your comments. I have been a Scout Master and my son is an Eagle Scout.
I was intending to say that the child should not have a real notion of his sexuality so young. We are sexualizing children much too young in our country. When my son was going through the program, they were not talking about getting laid, they were talking about lighting f@rts.
As for the Scouts treating problems, I know of more than one potential J.D. who was set on the straight path just because of the example the boys and men of character in our Troop set for them. We didn't psychoanlyze them, we just gave them a proper standard to live up to. The same would happen with sexually confused young boys. Put them in an environment where there are true men around and they will learn from the example.
I'm with you 100% on the mental disorder part. But from my research, one important thing that homosexual boys and men need to help them come out of the lifestyle is other boys or men who accept them without being involved sexually. Shalom.
Yes, it's true that percentage wise, gays molest children at a higher rate than heterosexuals.
Even homosexual activists have admitted the 10% fallacy. The actual percentage of homosexuals is close to 2%, including bisexuals.
Quoting from here we see the following:
If 2% of the population is responsible for 20% to 40% of something as socially and personally troubling as child molestation, something must be desperately wrong with that 2%. Not every homosexual is a child molester. But enough gays do molest children so that the risk of a homosexual molesting a child is 10 to 20 times greater than that of a heterosexual.From here:
Homosexuals additionally charge that most molestation cases involve heterosexuals. One frequently-cited study, Jenny, Roesler and Poyer, 1994, published in Pediatrics, supposedly demonstrated that 98% of men who abused children self-identified as heterosexual. But in a review of the Jenny study, Dr. Paul Cameron of Family Research Institute said the researchers merely examined hospital charts: [N]either the victims, perpetrators, nor even those who prepared the charts were interviewed to discover their sexual orientation. In fact, said Cameron, in the only study (Erickson, Walbek, and Seely, 1988) in which perpetrators were asked to declare their sexual orientation, almost the opposite was found to be true: 86% of child molesters identified themselves as homosexual or bisexual.From here:...
homosexuals are at least 8-12 times more likely to molest children than are heterosexuals.
...In other words, although heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1, homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses.More of the same from this detailed PDF report:
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Child Molestation and the Homosexual MovementIt's quite clear the evidence supports your statement, ArGee. That is, percentagewise, homosexuals are more likely to molest children.
True. I've made it really easy to read the stats in the above post.
And that, my FRiends, is one of the greatest rip-offs of all time.
DO NOT contribute to the United Way. Rather, donate directly to the charity of your choice. Don't fall for the "donate through your workplace" scam. Why give money to the United Way, let them take their cut and give the rest to some charity you never heard of? Instead, just give the money directly.
Check out this three part series on the United Way that was printed in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel this past September:
Fewer donors, more choices put squeeze on agency; United Way struggles with identity ^
Donor choice a negligible factor at United Way ^ <<-- Particularly damning
United Way finds turf crowded ^
Personally, I prefer donating to local causes where my money has a reasonable chance of staying here in town.
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