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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
"Like most people that bash Atkin's you seem to have no grasp of the way of eating that he called for."------

This isn’t just me “bashing” Atkins. I’ve worked in the field for over 30 years and I have not yet found a low carb high protein diet that works because just as soon as you go off it, you gain it back. And all the low carb diets, with time, create a consistent pattern of health risks.

You do what you want. Your genes will tell you more than anything if you listen to them. If the dieter doesn’t take the time, and do things in moderation, and find what works and stay with it, then there is failure too often and health risks way too much.

If you find the time, read the below sites. This is just a tiny part of what I have read.

I am not going to sit around and get shot at when I am voicing an opinion. I walked away from another site with people that were listening to the hype from someone trying to sell something, and not the possibilities.

Happy New Year

Red

http://www.diet-i.com/diets/high-protein-diets.htm

http://www.ivillage.com/food/experts/nutrition/qas/0,,242253_90078,00.html

http://www.vegsource.com/articles/protein.danger.htm

http://www.health24.co.za/dietnfood/Weight_Centre/15-51-85,19916.asp

http://msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3541399&p1=0

http://www.fitwoman.com/fitbriefings/protein.shtml

http://content.health.msn.com/content/article/77/95324.htm

42 posted on 12/31/2003 11:32:15 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: Redwood71
I have not yet found a low carb high protein diet that works because just as soon as you go off it, you gain it back.

Had to respond to this part - can you find me a "diet" where you don't gain it back after you stop dieting?

I've been doing Atkins this past year (lost 25, holidays put back about 10). The underlying aspect to Atkins (and most diets) is a lifestyle change - you need to keep up with your changed eating habits, because that is what caused you to lose your weight (your original habits caused you to put it on :-)

43 posted on 12/31/2003 11:57:33 AM PST by jaj_dad
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To: Redwood71
I’ve worked in the field for over 30 years and I have not yet found a low carb high protein diet that works because just as soon as you go off it, you gain it back.

What kind of BS is this. If you go off of any diet IT DOESN'T WORK.

Let me ask you a personal question - are you a vegetarian? a lacto vegetarian? Looking at your links it sure seems that way! Good luck and take plenty of supplements if you are(especially B12 because vegans are universally deficient) Doesn't matter that essential vitamins and minerals are missing vegans say that that is our "natural" diet!

45 posted on 12/31/2003 12:49:26 PM PST by Nov3
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To: Redwood71
I’ve worked in the field for over 30 years and I have not yet found a low carb high protein diet that works because just as soon as you go off it, you gain it back.

Think about what you just said! No matter what kind of diet you are on, you are going to gain the weight back as soon as you go back to your old way of eating! Major DUH! The key to successful weight loss is to make a permanent lifestyle change. Any effort to lose weight through a temporary change in diet and exercise is doomed to failure.

56 posted on 01/01/2004 2:18:15 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Redwood71
"This isn’t just me “bashing” Atkins. I’ve worked in the field for over 30 years and I have not yet found a low carb high protein diet that works because just as soon as you go off it, you gain it back. And all the low carb diets, with time, create a consistent pattern of health risks."

Wow. Your a ****ing genius. Of course if you go back to eating the stuff that got you fat in the first place, you are going to start gaining weight. Congratulations, you passed Logic 101.

65 posted on 01/02/2004 8:40:37 AM PST by Crispy
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To: Redwood71
I read several of the links you provided. What I find interesting is that everyone I read does not describe the Atkin's way of eating. Also, they do not tell you that after about eating low-carb for about 2 or 3 weeks you actually eat less. I personally was rarely hungry between meals, I was eating about 1/2 the portions I did before Atkin's.

It is interesting to note that the majority of health experts say we should follow the diet formulated 1970's. Haven't all the news article's been say that that is when American's started getting fatter? Or is it just circumstatual?
70 posted on 01/02/2004 10:47:18 AM PST by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome (I'm Okies love Dubya 2's "other half")
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