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To: Lazamataz
October 9, 2003: Looks like Department of Defense is determined to drive a stake into the heart of LOSAT and kill it off for good. LOSAT is a 177 pound, 162mm diameter missile that can destroy any tank in existence with a very high speed impact. The missile quickly accelerates to 5,000 feet per second and is guided straight to its target (up to 4,000 meters away), as seen by the gunner through a day or night-vision sight. LOSAT was simple, four could be mounted on a hummer, and it worked. Development began in 1988, but then came the end of the Cold War and hordes of armored vehicles the Soviet Union had long threatened to unleash on Western Europe. Interest in new anti-tank weapons diminished and the in 1992 Department of Defense put LOSAT on the back burner as a "research and development" project. In 1996, the Department of Defense tried to cancel LOSAT, but the army fought back and kept it alive, barely. But then came September 11, 2001 and in mid-2002 LOSAT was given an official designation (MGM-166A) and an order for 108 missiles, to be used by an army unit to see how they hold up under field conditions. But the Department of Defense is out to cut unneeded projects and LOSAT is again on the chopping block. In Iraq, Javelin gave troops in hummers an excellent anti-tank weapon. Javelin is now proven in combat and it's a lot lighter (the missile itself weighs 20 pounds, plus 15 pounds for the launch tube it is sealed and shipped in, and fired from.) At $75,000 a missile, Javelin isn't much cheaper than LOSAT, and Javelin's shorter range (2,500 meters) is not seen as a problem. So the Department of Defense is out to kill LOSAT once more, or at least put it on the back burner until some potential foe gathers together a really, really large army of armored vehicles.
27 posted on 11/12/2003 1:31:46 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Brave Rifles! Veterans! You have been baptized in fire and blood and have come out steel.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
If they get rid of LOSAT, I want all the spares.

Atlanta driving is a nightmare. This might clear things up a little.

29 posted on 11/12/2003 1:34:09 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY SCARING FELLOW FREEPERS SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
I have a neat Javelin video. You should see the turret fly, 1/10th a mile into the sky!
31 posted on 11/12/2003 1:35:46 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY SCARING FELLOW FREEPERS SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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33 posted on 11/12/2003 1:40:47 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Brave Rifles! Veterans! You have been baptized in fire and blood and have come out steel.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
At $75,000 a missile, Javelin isn't much cheaper than LOSAT, and Javelin's shorter range (2,500 meters) is not seen as a problem.

Unless, of course, they ever go up against Russian BMP or BTR vehicles equipped with the 9M123-2 Khrizantema antitank guided missile system, with a 4KM range now, expected to be improved to 7.5 KM in its next generation.

The good news, such as it is, is that as planned at present, each BMP will carry only 15 missiles in the loading rack for the twin-tube launcher. After that, they'll only have the 100 mm main gun with 40 rounds, plus 10 bore-riding guided AT missiles for it, then the 30mm gun.

Then there are the 9M114 *Sturm missile launch vehicles with a 6 KM range, already being fielded for long-range AT vehicles, helicopters, and even coastal patrol vessels. Between Kornet, Konkurs, Khrizantema and Sturm, not to mention all those 100mm missiles in every BMP-3 [and those 50,000 *obsolete* T-54/T-55s, suddenly not so obsolete any more.] Maybe we'd be well advised to have something with a bit more than a 2.5KM range....


60 posted on 11/12/2003 4:27:36 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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