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The Great Awakening About China
Human Events ^ | November 12, 2003 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 11/12/2003 9:45:45 AM PST by hinterlander

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1 posted on 11/12/2003 9:45:46 AM PST by hinterlander
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To: hinterlander
When Evans was in Beijing this month, China staged a ceremonial signing of contracts to buy $100 Million worth of U.S. rail equipment. That's just 1/10th of one percent of our trade deficit with China now running at $120 Billion.

If anyone thinks this will get better, think again. China fully intends to just squash us. It ain't a pretty thought but the only thing that will stop it is military muscle.

2 posted on 11/12/2003 9:54:34 AM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: hinterlander
Our alleged leadership thinks they'll make a profit and the Chinese use the opportunity to wage assymetric war against us.

The stupidest idea I ever heard, open the chinese market.
3 posted on 11/12/2003 10:06:34 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
open the chinese market

How many centuries has the west been salivating at the thought of an open Chinese market? Has it ever happened?

There is something very odd about China. And did you notice that when western businessmen start to do business there and spend time there--weird things happen to many of them. It is almost like they start to think they are really worldy, almost cool because they go there.

I can't explain it but I see it quite frequently. I know of a particular CEO who is older than dirt and never had children has taken a young Chinese boy as his protégé. He loves to brag about it.

Strange phenomenum, there should be a word for it.

4 posted on 11/12/2003 10:18:11 AM PST by riri
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
I think the previous leadership did.
5 posted on 11/12/2003 10:20:38 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: hinterlander
The average Freeper knew this would happen. Our Amazing Administration of Jesus W. Bush didn't. Is this correct?

He continually gets burned by his enemies. whether it is that fat bastard Ted Kennedy, or our future masters from China, every time he gives an olive branch to his enemies, they wipe their ass with it, and smear it on his face. then he turns the other cheek.

6 posted on 11/12/2003 10:26:47 AM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Free trade is slowly killing off the American middle class.
7 posted on 11/12/2003 10:27:41 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; riri; the gillman@blacklagoon.com; TLI; hinterlander
If we defeated the Soviet Union by bankrupting them, how can we expcet to defeat China by making them RICH???
8 posted on 11/12/2003 10:29:30 AM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
The stupidest idea I ever heard, open the chinese market.

Agreed. When you open a "market" you are supposed to be looking for new cossumers/customers. All that has happened is that jobs get sent there so people will work for sub-standard wages in seatshop coniditons.

This leads into the biggest lie of all - that "free trade with China would "open" it up to new ideas and democracy. I heard that from most liberals in the 90's. Have you seen even a shred of evidence of this yet? They claim the same will happen to Cuba. Yet when it came to South Africa (and Pinochet's government) in the 80's, they were all for boycotts and embargoes.

9 posted on 11/12/2003 10:49:20 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: hinterlander
Evans admitted to the Detroit Club that U.S. manufacturers are complaining about "rampant piracy of intellectual property, forced transfer of technology from firms launching joint ventures in China, trade barriers and capital markets that are largely insulated from free-market pressures."

Yeah, and they didn't even get some campaign money for their troubles, either.

A paper company I'm familiar with started a mill in China. They got oodles of "cooperation" as long as they were in the construction phase, but when it came time to produce paper, the agreements for feedstocks suddenly became tied up in red tape until the paper company had to write the entire mill off as a loss.

The Chineeeeeeeze simply took it over, gratis, and operated it. In effect, they got a brand new, couple of billion dollar paper mill for free, courtesy of a naive American company.

10 posted on 11/12/2003 11:10:36 AM PST by nightdriver
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It is just amazing how nationalist other countries are economically, while America feels it is our moral duty to take it in the eye at every opportunity.
11 posted on 11/12/2003 11:16:43 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: nightdriver
Rule of Law does not exist. You cannot operate a business or a life like that. You never know what will happen or who you can trust.
12 posted on 11/12/2003 11:30:25 AM PST by CherylBower
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To: hinterlander
It has been disgusting to watch American businessmen allowing themselves to be buffaloed time and again by the one-way trade deals made with the Chinese during our history, particularly during the past thirty years. Ever since Nixon visited Mao in the early 70s, we've been shafted by the Chinese, stupidly waiting for them to open their country to American trade, while we've given them technology secrets, investment dollars, and finally MFN status. And for what? They're as anti-American and duplicitous as the French and Germans!

But although this practice has been disgusting,it has not been unusual. Ever since the 19th century, American foreign policy has had a screwy preference for the Chinese, even when this preference has resulted in disaster for US interests. American businesses used runaway Chinese immigration to cheaply build the transcontinental railroad. Our involvement with China in the 1900s (the Open Door policy) resulted in direct attacks on Americans during the Boxer Rebellion. We idiotically gave China special trade consideration over Japan after Japan fought with the US in WWI. We allowed Chinese immigration to flood California, then implemented specific immigration quotas against the Japanese. This skewed approach created a lot of animosity with the Japanese, contributing to Pearl Harbor. Then, after all we had done for China, the Chinese failed us in WWII (Joseph Stilwell loathed Chiang Kai Shek)and fought us in Korea.

I think its important for Americans to consider all this the next time they ignorantly and blithely decide to do their shopping at WalMart, which is the largest single purchase of imported Chinese goods.
13 posted on 11/12/2003 11:49:29 AM PST by vanmorrison
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If we defeated the Soviet Union by bankrupting them, how can we expect to defeat China by making them RICH

I guess you would have to guess that defeating them is not part of the plan.

14 posted on 11/12/2003 1:16:21 PM PST by riri
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To: vanmorrison; JohnOG; DarkWaters; swarthyguy; Brian S; Paul Ross; Jeff Head; HighRoadToChina
A "'tis the season" bump. Boycott the PRC!
15 posted on 12/03/2003 9:44:01 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: belmont_mark
>>>Boycott the PRC!


??????

Free Tibet. Kill the Bush Chinese Commies.
16 posted on 12/03/2003 1:26:54 PM PST by swarthyguy
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"China is saying that it plans to buy more goods from the United States."

Someone has been smoking some funny weed if they believe this. If this weren't so serious, it would be laughable.

17 posted on 12/03/2003 1:30:11 PM PST by Jerrybob
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To: Jerrybob
" Someone has been smoking some funny weed if they believe this. "

I have smoked a bunch, and sure don't come close to believing it! It is insanity, pure stupidity, and greed, all lumped together.
RadioShack built factories, and sold stuff to RS cheap. They made fabulous profits, but now they are stuck. they don't have any local sources of supply. what happens when the ChiComs fail to deliver all the toys, in time for Christmas? I am sure a Chicom retail operation will take their place.
Dollar stores do tremendous volume, and they are almost exclusinely Chicom marketers. And lest we forget, WallyWorld, and their buy USA policy, has been gone as long as Sam!
18 posted on 12/03/2003 1:39:31 PM PST by pageonetoo (Rights, what Rights'. You're kidding, right?)
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To: riri
I can't explain it but I see it quite frequently. I know of a particular CEO who is older than dirt and never had children has taken a young Chinese boy as his protégé. He loves to brag about it.

Strange phenomenum, there should be a word for it.


Butt-pirate ?
19 posted on 12/03/2003 1:46:52 PM PST by pyx (Is this really all there is ?)
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Riri, I know exactly what you are talking about. And the ChiCOMs know how to lay it on thick. They have it down to an art, after all, that's how they bedded all the KMT party industrialists from Taiwan. First it was the rounds of golf (and beers). Then, things were "arranged" that led to the local women and eventually the second ( and in some cases, third!) family on the mainland. So if they could tempt the fellow Chinese, then roundeyes are a piece of cake. I remember more than one expat giving me the standard sales pitch about how great it was to work over there. At first I really loved my visits and couldn't wait to go back. Thank God I woke up in time, or else I might have gotten bitten myself.
20 posted on 12/03/2003 4:56:39 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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