The Downfall of Uniformitarianism

Creation-Evolution Headlines ^ | 11/04/2003 | Creation-Evolution Headlines

[Doctor Stochastic]

Non-responsive.

Where in the bible are Germany and France mentioned? What do Germany and France have to do with specific predictions of the 9-11 attacks?

[bondserv]

So if the Sox's had oil and the Yankees had none, the world would hate the Yankees because they tend to win.

World wide political impact.

[MineralMan]

"They are like drop-clothes laid out, before you paint the walls. "

I never drop my clothes before painting. That paint is hard to get off bare skin.

[MineralMan]

"Because of supernatural forces there will be no peace between Arabs and Jews, despite the fact that Britain gave Israelis only 1/6 of 1% of the land recovered from the Ottoman Empire. 99 and 5/6% of the land was given to the people of Islam.

Jerusalem has no port, no water source, and is no longer a trade pathway. Yet the cup of trembling continues to dominate the politics of the entire world. Highly Irrational.

Islamic countries, joined by Russia, will attempt to destroy Israel from the face of the earth. The pattern has been pre-woven.

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In what way is that a specific prediction?

[bondserv]

Where in the bible are Germany and France mentioned? What do Germany and France have to do with specific predictions of the 9-11 attacks?

It goes to their anti-God evolutionary predilections. More people go to Mosques than churches in these two countries.

Alignment is critical. We choose to love the Middle-Eastern people and send troops, money and missionaries to help them live in freedom.

Supernatural forces compelled these educated middle-easterners to attack innocent Americans on 9-11. They hate the freedom and personal accountability we exhibit in our culture. A large percentage of Americans are free in Christ. Hence the captured missionaries in Afghanistan before the war, despite them not being welcome there.

Free to help those that hate you.

[bondserv]

I never drop my clothes before painting. That paint is hard to get off bare skin.

HAHAHAAA

[MineralMan]

"It goes to their anti-God evolutionary predilections. More people go to Mosques than churches in these two countries.

"

France and Germany? Have you ever been there? There are churches everywhere all across both nations, and people attend them. Mosques are a bit harder to find, although they do exist in the major cities.

Just because you say something does not make it true. You're going to have to support this statement somehow or withdraw it.

[MineralMan]

"It goes to their anti-God evolutionary predilections. More people go to Mosques than churches in these two countries."

OK, the population of Germany is roughly 82.5 million. The Muslim population is roughly 3.2 million. That makes the Muslim population about 3.9% of the total population. From another site, 14% of the German population attends church regularly. You are wrong on that one.

France, with a population of roughly 61.1 million, has a Muslim population of about 5 million. That's just over 8%. Since an estimated 21% of the population of France attends church regularly (as of a 1991 survey), you're wrong on that one as well.

You see, it was easy to find these numbers. Just search for "church attendance countryname" on Google. Then search for "Population countryname" and "Muslim population countryname." I found all these stats within the first two hits on Google. Where did you get your information?

[VadeRetro]

There is a clear line of islands and seamounts leading from the Big Island thousands of miles to the WNW - with a jog to the NW that reflects a change in the direction of the Pacific Plate (a jog reflected in other island/seamount chains in the Pacific).

Hamilton airily says "Plumes are not allowed." In this article at least, he does a lousy job of explaining why plumes are not allowed or why the Hawaiian islands actually falsify the plume concept or how those islands formed if they aren't sitting over a plume.

You can't just say that the seemingly obvious interpretation is not allowed. You have to have a good reason why your version is better. For your version to be better, you have to present a version!

[VadeRetro]

Supernatural forces compelled these educated middle-easterners to attack innocent Americans on 9-11.

No. Belief in supernatural forces makes these people act crazy. There's a warning in that.

[MineralMan]

"Hamilton airily says "Plumes are not allowed." In this article at least, he does a lousy job of explaining why plumes are not allowed or why the Hawaiian islands actually falsify the plume concept or how those islands formed if they aren't sitting over a plume."

Well, it's really just a speculative essay on Hamilton's part. But, it's typical of the kind of extraneous fact-grabbing the creationists do. They find anything they can that disagrees with their notions of what science says, then use a disagreement as proof that science is wrong.

Never mind that this author said nothing about a young earth or anything of the sort. It doesn't matter to the YECcers. I suspect, based on most of the discussion here by the YECcers, that none of them really even bother to read the actual articles. Instead, they find these essays on one creationist site or another and post them blindly here, paying little attention to the logic presented.

Normally, I don't bother with these threads, but this one was more specious than most.

[Sabertooth]

*Supernatural forces compelled these educated middle-easterners to attack innocent Americans on 9-11.

**No. Belief in supernatural forces makes these people act crazy. There's a warning in that.

Evidence, either way?

[Doctor Stochastic]

Preponderence of evidence. I have never observed a supernatural force nor seen any indirect evidence for one. I have observed many people who claim to believe in such forces.

[Junior]

Placemarker (gee, thanks for pinging me...).

[bondserv]

Their supernatural belief's compelled them to destroy innocent lives. The Father of Lies has his way with those who believe in the supernatural or not.

A woman is raped and chooses to abort the baby for fear it will remind her of her rape.

A woman is beaten by her husband and chooses to kill her 1 year old because the baby reminds her of her husband.

Two gay men can't find release for their lust so they anally rape a young boy and suffocate him to death.

We kill animals and humans are just smart animals...

Any idea that facilitates sin must be handled with fear and trembling.

[Sabertooth]

Preponderence of evidence. I have never observed a supernatural force nor seen any indirect evidence for one.

Absence of evidence doesn't equal evidence of absence.

Science deals with natural phenomena through natural observation, and isn't equipped to confirm the presence or absence of supernatural phenomena.

Conclusions either way are leaps of faith.

[bondserv]

I have never observed a supernatural force nor seen any indirect evidence for one. I have observed many people who claim to believe in such forces.

I have tried to demonstrate some tangible reasons for you to see the truth of this Scriptural passage.

Eph 6:12-13
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

[Doctor Stochastic]

None of your posts has been responsive to my questions.

[bondserv]

Hitler swayed a nation based on his charisma?

[MineralMan]

"Their supernatural belief's compelled them to destroy innocent lives. The Father of Lies has his way with those who believe in the supernatural or not.

A woman is raped and chooses to abort the baby for fear it will remind her of her rape.

A woman is beaten by her husband and chooses to kill her 1 year old because the baby reminds her of her husband.

Two gay men can't find release for their lust so they anally rape a young boy and suffocate him to death.

We kill animals and humans are just smart animals...

Any idea that facilitates sin must be handled with fear and trembling.'

I'm curious. How on earth did we get from a story about a new theory about the formation of this planet to the rant above? What does this have to do with the topic of this thread?