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To: Catspaw
The fight over Roy's Rock and probably Roy himself is over, unless you plan on a revolution--and if so, exactly how are you going to achieve it?

By publicly asking idiots like you--over and over again if necessary--a simple question:

What specifically do you find objectionable about the statements:

THOU SHALT NOT HAVE ANY OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.
THOU SHALT NOT MAKE ANY GRAVEN IMAGE
THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN
THOU SHALT REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY TO KEEP IT HOLY
THOU SHALT HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER
THOU SHALT NOT MURDER
THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY
THOU SHALT NOT STEAL
THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHBOR
THOU SHALT NOT COVET
347 posted on 11/11/2003 6:57:15 PM PST by farmer18th
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To: farmer18th
By publicly asking idiots like you

Ah, name-calling in a feeble attempt to make your point. You just lost the debate.

353 posted on 11/12/2003 3:55:51 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: farmer18th
What specifically do you find objectionable about the statements:
THOU SHALT NOT HAVE ANY OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.
THOU SHALT NOT MAKE ANY GRAVEN IMAGE
THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN
THOU SHALT REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY TO KEEP IT HOLY
THOU SHALT HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER
THOU SHALT NOT MURDER
THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY
THOU SHALT NOT STEAL
THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHBOR
THOU SHALT NOT COVET

There are many objectionable things about the list you just posted.

a) Where did you get your list? It is not the list which Moore had engraved in his stone. His list says "Thou shalt no kill," not "Thou shalt not murder." There are some other wording differences as well.

b) Where did Moore get his list? I checked the 16 translations of the Bible on the Bible Gateway and his list, as he has worded it, does not appear in any of them. According to his own statements Moore has placed this monument to show respect for God's Word, but not without first editing the words to suit himself.

It is certainly different from the Catholic listing of the Decalogue. Therefore this list shows a preference for one sect over another. That in itself is a clear violation of the intent of the 1st Amendment.

c) "THOU SHALT NOT MAKE ANY GRAVEN IMAGE" Aside from the fact that Moore himself has created a 'graven image' this is a commandment that few of us are interested in following. Are sculptures immoral? I don't think so. Do you? If so you should be offended by this monument.

d) "THOU SHALT NOT HAVE ANY OTHER GODS BEFORE ME" America has freedom of religion. If I want to go worship a moon god, or a pantheon of gods, or no god at all then that is my business. I don't think there should be a large stone monument in a state courthouse commanding me to worship the God of the ancient Hebrews (even if I choose to worship that same God elsewhere). This commandment also directly contradicts the US and Alabama Constitutions. Do you find the 1st Amendment objectionable?

e) "THOU SHALT REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY TO KEEP IT HOLY" The sabbath day? Which day is that? Friday, Saturday, Sunday? Since Moore felt comfortable editing the text maybe he should change that to "a sabbath day?"

f) The context, including Moore's own actions and words, are objectionable. Moore has gone out of his way to be provocative in placing this monument. He has shown disrespect for his colleagues, for the Consitution, for his office, and for those of other faiths.

409 posted on 11/12/2003 12:09:06 PM PST by Looking for Diogenes
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