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To: meyer
Let me get this striaght - You're sitting here bitching about all the useless telemarketers who may lose their jobs and you complain about "bitching and moaning"? Boy, get yourself a mirror!

You ran from this before, so I will say it again in different words. What makes you think 2 million people who earned there living telemarketing were useless, either to themselves, the business community or their customers. I know why you don't answer it. You can't because you remark is stupid. I have faith that someday you too will learn this. Its no different than asking the government to help police my property against other soliciters and tresspassers.

Is there a government list for tresspassers? I think not. Aren't you going over the dep end here? You are. Guess you just don't realize it. Going to the government to solve you imaginary problems is a classic Democratic symptom. Better check your voter registration. Who knows what else you are doing while you aren't looking. Dude - listen up - its MY telephone and I don't want you or your useless deceptive telemarketers calling me at any hour. Ever! And nobody is entitled to tresspass on my property including my phone line unless I give permission. Is that such a hard concept for you to understand?

That's easy. Cut your phone line off at your property line. No problems. The telephone system is something we all share for all sorts of reasons. You just want to use the parts I use without letting others use the parts you use.

Apparently, for most telemarketers it is, since the vast majority of people in this country have turned to the government, much like they'd turn to the police, to help enforce that concept.

Yes, but I find nothing admirable in encouraging weak minded petulance.

This is no different than a do-not-solicit sign for the phone line.

Oh yes there is. As far as I am concerned, you can hang a hundred 'do-not-solicit' signs on your phone when I call. I have no problem with that. I don't care how many of those are on it when I call as long as you aren't too rude or stupid to answer your phone like a human being. Even if your aren't, I'll try some other time in the off-hand chance you have learned a little more about taking care of your self in a civilized manner.

194 posted on 11/11/2003 2:36:47 PM PST by Held_to_Ransom
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To: Held_to_Ransom
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195 posted on 11/11/2003 2:39:37 PM PST by Darksheare (Proving that there are alternate perceptions of surreality Since Oct 2, 2000.)
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To: Held_to_Ransom
You ran from this before, so I will say it again in different words. What makes you think 2 million people who earned there living telemarketing were useless, either to themselves, the business community or their customers. I know why you don't answer it. You can't because you remark is stupid. I have faith that someday you too will learn this.

I don't recall that being asked before. Perhaps you used the wrong punctuation .... again.

I told you that telemarketers are useless. I also explained that while they may bring about a good bottom line for their employer, they share some commonality with thieves and other n'er-do-wells - they take people's hard-earned cash and give them nothing or little in return. They coerce people into buying useless junk that those people would otherwise not buy. They interrupt the peace of the home. They tresspass. They convince democrats that they may have voted wrong. It takes a special kind of sickness to try to defend those actions.

Is there a government list for tresspassers? I think not. Aren't you going over the dep end here? You are. Guess you just don't realize it. Going to the government to solve you imaginary problems is a classic Democratic symptom. Better check your voter registration. Who knows what else you are doing while you aren't looking.

Were you born this dense or did you hit your head on something really hard as a youth. Show me where I stated that there is a government list for trespassers. Telemarketers are trespassing on my phone line, just as one might trespass on other forms of private property. The police enforce tresspassing laws of other sorts. The do-not-call list simply creates the means of allowing enforcement when the trespasser uses the phone line. How can you not understand such a simple concept?

That's easy. Cut your phone line off at your property line. No problems. The telephone system is something we all share for all sorts of reasons. You just want to use the parts I use without letting others use the parts you use.

We share the network, but the line from the network to the phone is a distinctly private piece of equipment which belongs to the homeowner. You may use the network as you wish just as you may walk or drive down the street as you wish. But when you call my number without my permission, just as when you walk through my yard or use my driveway without permission, you are trespassing. Your "disconnecting" idea is analogous to disconnecting ones' lot from the road. You are confusing publicly used phone lines with private phone equipment. There is a line of demarcation, but you pretend it doesn't exist.

Oh yes there is. As far as I am concerned, you can hang a hundred 'do-not-solicit' signs on your phone when I call. I have no problem with that. I don't care how many of those are on it when I call as long as you aren't too rude or stupid to answer your phone like a human being. Even if your aren't, I'll try some other time in the off-hand chance you have learned a little more about taking care of your self in a civilized manner.

Pretty telling of just the kind of person you are. That should go far in convincing people that the "do-not-call" list is a bad idea.

202 posted on 11/11/2003 3:05:45 PM PST by meyer
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