Storm swirls around drug sweep

Charleston Post & Courier ^ | 11/11/03 | STEVE REEVES AND ALLISON L. BRUCE

[The Game Hen]

Dr. Floyd and the District have taken the reasonable position that the school did not intend for this to happen the way it did.
The principal, McCrackin, is the one with no regrets. He's not responsible for the mess the police made but if he thinks the cops did nothing wrong, he need to be fired for poor judgement.

[Cap'n Crunch]

That teacher you spoke to was right, the schools can't do anything to these rotten kids to get them thrown out. You should see these kids screaming obscenities at the principal in the school my wife works at.

They can't even give them after school detentions LOL hahahahahahahahahahaha. They have in school suspensions. The one teacher gives them candy and popcorn when they have in school suspensions.

Your tax dollars at work.

[The_Media_never_lie]

I remember an incident in this same county where individuals were robbed of $300,000.00 that they were keeping in their trunk. By the same token does anyone have any right whatsoever to inquire where the $300,000.00 cash came from? I'll give you three guesses where.......

[pageonetoo]

"I remember when the schools used to handle the discipline."

1965 grad, New Hanover High, Wilmington, NC... I remember the dean of MEN, Mr. Fred Capps. He ruled with the "Board of Education". It had holes drilled, and NOBODY ever complained about its use!
It usually was warranted, and the parents always supported him...

I also remember Mrs. Frances Formy-Duvall, my senior English Composition teacher. She was a battle-ax, that EXPECTED YOU TO LEARN HOW TO WRITE. She had taught my father, and when I came into her class, targeted me for being unruly. Apparently, she had memories of my Dad. (I never did anything wrong, I was just my dad's son!) I got A's in her course. I earned them!!!

[Stew Padasso]

It's the easy way out for the parents and the schools.

[Cap'n Crunch]

If a teacher paddled a kid in our school system he would be fired, the "parent" of the kid would be at the school causing quite a disturbance and the next day a lawsuit would be filed.

The times they are a changin'

[The Game Hen]

"the schools can't do anything to these rotten kids to get them thrown out."

They say they can't but I want proof. I want a judge to say it can't be done when every single one of them is forced into court.

You certainly can't if you don't try.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Your right, and the poor bonehead cops are stuck in the middle.

Cops don't belong in schools. Teachers need to bust heads again.

[Cap'n Crunch]

The teachers have told me it's because of the Federal Government and the "no child left behind" program.

You know, clean up the schools and get re-elected.

[BUCKSBUD]

Stratford High is the largest school in Berkeley County and second-largest statewide, with nearly 2,700 students. Because of its size, it has more surveillance than other schools in the county -- about 70 cameras that have been installed within the past two years.

They have 70 cameras in the school and can't find out who is dealing? I find that hard to believe.
I also think that this type raid is on very shakey ground since only SOME students were subjected to this search. Like only checking the cars you want at a license check. What dumba%% cop would only search 2 occupants of a car with 4 suspected drug dealers in it.
This whole thing stinks so bad it's not funny.
TALK ABOUT A POLICE STATE THIS IS IT.

[webstersII]

"I wish alot of you people here could come inside the public school system, even the one here in our city."

They came in with guns drawn and riot gear. They pointed the guns at unarmed individuals with no reason or provocation.

Which part of this story has escaped you?

[eno_]

The cops, and their CO, lacked enough sense to question whether this was a good idea. More than enough stupidity to go around.

If you were interviewing a potential hire for a PD and they could not tell you immediately that raiding a school with an almost total lack of information is a bad idea, you would, of course, not hire that person. Why would you retain them if they already worked at the PD?

[samtheman]

Another argument for school vouchers.

[Leatherneck_MT]

" The teachers also insisted that we would feel differently if we could have heard the audio. Some of those kids were mouthing off! (I bet some were even chewing gum!)"

I would not only encourage my kid to mouth off, but I would also support him by being at the Police Chief's office THAT DAY mouthing off myself. This kind of BS has to stop before someone gets tired of it and people begin losing their lives.

This entire thing is ludicrous.

[BUCKSBUD]

Big difference between $100 and $300,000 and as far as I'm concerned in you're description the people were victoms after being robbed. They may need to explain that loss to the IRS.

[Jack Black]

Don't blame the police.

Screw that. The police are professionals. If some segment of the community asks them to go round up all the Jews in the city, does that excuse it. HELL NO. They, not their supporters, are supposed to understand the limits of the law. This means both individually, as a sworn officer, and collectively as a force.

In showing such complete lack of common sense and disregard for the highest law of the land they have, rightfully, opened themselves up to ridicule and lawsuit.

Were I the parent of a child treated in this way you can bet I would be suing everyone involved for large amounts of money, as well as working to organize a class action against the school, the police, the principle, the chief of police and the school board. My goal would be to bankrupt all them, which would definately send the message "you can't pull guns on kids at school, handcuff them, and smack them around because you think there are drug dealers at the school" or, perhaps more simply "this is not the USSR".

Now the cops do what they are trained to do and we suddenly have a problem with it.

If cops are being trained to randomly arrest and search individuals suspected of no crime our Republic is gone, we had better train our kids to fight tyranny - because it is here.

[BUCKSBUD]

WELL PUT !!!!!

[Jeff Head]

Been training mine to do that their entire lives.

Either with the spoken word and constitutional activism, with yours truly serving as as good an example as I could make...or, if necessary and God forbid, with their firearms (side arms, shot guns and long rifles), which they are all also trained to use.

[Gargantua]

AHHhhhh.

Yet another strategic victory in the War On Drugs. Don't think that just because no drugs were found that this wasn't a tactical success... because it was.

Right.

Blame this ineffectual Gestapo stupidity on the kids who bring drugs to school (where no drugs were found).

It would be funny if it weren't so tragic a portrayal of the futility of the badly failed WOD.

The Drug Czar likes to say that buying drugs is tantamount to supporting Terrorism. It isn't.

It's keeping the drugs illegal which forces the money into the hands of terrorists. It is the WOD which is directly and solely responsible for this.

[archy]

McCrackin, is the one with no regrets. He's not responsible for the mess the police made but if he thinks the cops did nothing wrong, he need to be fired for poor judgement.

Nah. He needs to have guys with guns take him down is in his own home.

That school and town's not safe. There are terrorists there.

-archy-/-