Sights are set on gun ban

The Star Ledger ^ | 11-9-03 | John McLaughlin

[Freemeorkillme]

In 1990, New Jersey banned semiautomatic rifles known as assault weapons. Appalled gun fanciers joined hands with Hands Across New Jersey -- an anti-tax outfit -- to limit Gov. Jim Florio to one term. Florio was in due course beaten in the 1993 election, and the gun lobby -- the Coalition of New Jersey Sportsmen -- got a lot of credit.

[Freemeorkillme]

I can't stand reading the Ledger. I'm tempted to cancel my Sunday subscription all together if it weren't for the fact that I'm making money off the coupons section in comparison to the cost of the paper(actually, the wife would have issues with a cancellation).

Many grade schoolers can provide a better analysis of the issue than McLie-ghlin did as evidenced by his following declaration:

"It is a tribute to the common sense of most Americans that they are lined up behind the ban of weapons that don't make much sense unless you want to kill a lot of people in a hurry."

This trash McLIEghlin calls an editorial is revolting. Have at it fellow bangers.

[Freemeorkillme]

Bang the lists guys.

[patton]

Purgementim in, Purgementum exit...

[Ancesthntr]

I can't stand reading the Ledger.

'Tis barely fit to line a bird cage.

This bunch of rancid sputum isn't even up to the level of an editorial, as it is so full of blatant lies and distortions that it is better called fiction.

The biggest lie is that Florio almost won because of the gun ban, and that Hands Across New Jersey beat him on the tax issue. I happen to personally know several people who were high up in the NJ pro-gun movement (yes, Virginia, there are actually pro-gunners in NJ) in the early '90s. They specifically told me that HANJ was created by them, and cloaked as an anti-tax group to get widespread attention and donations. The only people that cared enough about guns to vote single issue on it were the pro-gunners. You had to be involved in NJ politics in '93 to know how incredibly well-motivated we were to be "Florio Free in '93." Make no mistake, Florio became an ex-governor when he did because of the gun issue.

[OldFriend]

This week I said to hell with the coupons and cancelled my Ledger subscription. When the girl asked me why I told her because I felt the editorial content was too anti american.

She said she would note that as they always why a person cancelled.

[Freemeorkillme]

Ah, Florio free and thanks to you and me. That was actually on of my first election votes.

On a personal note, the police department in my town can be pretty friendly to firearm owners. It is also comprised of some rather well trained officers and specialists. Anyway, while applying for a purchasing permit, I had a rather lengthy discussion with the lieutenant who I had initially requested to speak to concerning further restrictive legislation on Permits to Purchase that had passed without my knowledge.

While using terms like "commie" and "rights robbers", he enlightened me on how the AWB and its renewal(he's resigned to the fact) was possibly going to effect his department with further prohibitive legislation. He mentioned that his department is actually in danger of loosing their machine guns! Can you believe this??(rhetorical, for those that live in NJ)

FMOKM

[semaj]

"...It is a tribute to the common sense of most Americans BARF! that they are lined up behind the ban of weapons that don't make much sense unless you want to kill a lot of people in a hurry."

It's not that I want to or even look forward to the possibility. It's just that at some point I may have to and I want the best tools available.

[unixfox]

Well, it doesn't sound like it would be much good for hunting. Not for hunting animals, anyway.

The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with firearms used for hunting. It has everything to do with protecting ones self, property and an intrusive government from tyrannical control.

I'll take a dozen of those nice little pens for stocking stuffers.

[.38sw]

The article states that 30,000 people die each year from gunshot wounds. He makes no distinction as to whether any of these shootings were self-defense or police shootings in the line of duty. How many of these shootings were accomplished by the dreaded "assault rifles"? There is no analysis as to the effect the AWB has had on crime and homicides, but that apparently is of no importance. According to our author here, the AWB's only make sense if you want to kill a lot of people in a hurry, and they aren't any good for hunting, after all.

[William Tell]

Freemeorkillme said: "I'm tempted to cancel my Sunday subscription all together if it weren't for the fact that I'm making money off the coupons section in comparison to the cost of the paper(actually, the wife would have issues with a cancellation)."

The liberal newspapers and other media are complicit in the widespread infringements of the right to keep and bear arms.

I estimated that the value of my subscription to our local rag was benefiting them about $250 per year in direct revenue and roughly the same amount in advertising benefit.

I wouldn't dream of contributing $500 dollars a year to the anti-gun, anti-conservative media. My wife misses the local news greatly. Savings from coupons pale in comparison to what the fight to restore my rights costs us every year in contributions and time.

[William Tell]

.38sw said: "According to our author here, the AWB's only make sense if you want to kill a lot of people in a hurry,..."

Sure. That must be why every sargeant's patrol car in Los Angeles carries one.

[GnL]

He also doesn't bother to separate out the suicides in that number (about half of the 30,000). I wonder how many of those people killed themselves with a semi-automatic, military-style rifle last year? Typical journalistic sewage on an issue they know zilch about.

[GnL]

"It...distinguishes America from the rest of the world's civilized nations."

So does our Bill of Rights.

[.38sw]

He also doesn't bother to separate out the suicides in that number (about half of the 30,000).

Even if he did, he'd probably argue that those suicides wouldn't have occurred if the person doing himself in didn't have access to a firearm. As if a person bent on suicide wouldn't find another way to accomplish the deed...

[Atlas Sneezed]

My wife misses the local news greatly.

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Great point about not supporting the antis.

And most papers give it away for free online. (I guess they make a few bucks on the Internet ads, but nothing compared to the print ads.)

[Atlas Sneezed]

Even if he did, he'd probably argue that those suicides wouldn't have occurred if the person doing himself in didn't have access to a firearm. As if a person bent on suicide wouldn't find another way to accomplish the deed...

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To paraphrase Archie Bunker (on gun murders):
"Youse would rather dey was pushed outta winduhs?"

[Freemeorkillme]

William, Tell it like it is. I am right now trying to harken back to my conflict resolution courses by looking for alternative coupon sources.

FReeRegards and welcome to life in Hell Jersey. It's a pity. If it weren't for liberal policies here, this state's image would be drastically improved.

[Looking4Truth]

"Typical journalistic sewage on an issue they know zilch about."

Reminds me of when I was in Germany a few years ago and some female reporter for the European Stars & Stripes wrote something about a 'semi-automatic revolver' in one of her articles.

[Shooter 2.5]

'semi-automatic revolver'

I'm sure the reporter didn't know what she was writing about but I have to say I love my Mateba. It's beautiful, handles nicely and the action is so fast I can't see it rotate the cylinder.

Since the barrel fires from the six o'clock postion, there isn't any muzzle flip.

[Joe Brower]