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U.S. jobs picture brightens
Sac Bee ^ | 11/8/03 | Dale Kasler

Posted on 11/08/2003 11:05:04 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/12/2004 6:00:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The nation's unemployment rate dropped to 6 percent last month, the government reported Friday, providing hope that a full-fledged economic recovery is finally at hand.

But after months of talk about a "jobless recovery," experts said job growth remains shaky because of lingering caution and the perverse effects of productivity gains in the workplace. In California, the budget deficit and oft-criticized business climate make the future even more uncertain.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: brightens; bushrecovery; calgov2002; jobs; picture

1 posted on 11/08/2003 11:05:04 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: *calgov2002
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2 posted on 11/08/2003 11:05:25 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...)
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To: NormsRevenge
If this is a "jobless recovery", how come the unemployment rate is falling? Is 6% unemployment better or worse than the unemployment rate in November 1935? How can this be the "worst unemployment situation since Hoover was in office"?
3 posted on 11/08/2003 11:27:02 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: NormsRevenge
I have yet to see one news story that has not reported this good economic news with caveats, warnings, and doubts.
4 posted on 11/08/2003 11:29:58 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: NormsRevenge
"There's a wonderful future ahead for people who may at this moment think their days and their future is a little dark."

Yeah right, Dubya.
McJobs at Mickey-D's are soooooooo challenging and rewarding.

Consumer debt increases in Sept. by largest amount since January

The new jobs added last month mostly were in lower-paying industries such as retail and temporary employment firms. Average weekly earnings in those sectors are $366 and $318 respectively, said John A. Challenger, chief executive officer of Challenger, Gray and Christmas, an employment research and recruiting firm. The national average is $521 per week." (Source)

Consumers can't afford very much debt on a WalMart wage.

There is no reason to believe that the debt-inflated service employment bubble is sustainable.
Especially with low-wage service sector jobs.

5 posted on 11/08/2003 11:32:34 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: KC_Conspirator
There are caveats and doubts.. The good news is that tax cuts seem to be working, and it reaffirms my belief that taxes should be slashed across the board. On the other hand, I've always had my doubts that 'jobless claims' are always an accurate portrayal of the job market. It in no way represents the people who have been jobless for so long that they are no longer eligible for unemployment benefits.
6 posted on 11/08/2003 11:45:36 AM PST by fiscally_right
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To: Willie Green
There is no reason to believe that the debt-inflated service employment bubble is sustainable.

Have you ever heard of economic growth? Employment will most definitely pick up more in the coming months.

7 posted on 11/08/2003 12:06:01 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Have you ever heard of economic growth? Employment will most definitely pick up more in the coming months.

But yesterday's report showed that income growth was tapering off without any growth in jobs. The yearly rate of wage gains dropped dramatically in the past two years from more than 4 percent to 2.4 percent — the lowest in a decade. The increase in take-home pay provided by President Bush's tax cuts served mostly to mask the marked downtrend in wage income, economists said....

And while he expects the job gains to continue and feed the recovery, he noted that many of the jobs being created "aren't exactly those that can support a household."

"This time around, however, it is an indication of structural change in the labor markets. Businesses can no longer afford the costly burden of health and pension benefits."
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8 posted on 11/08/2003 12:15:02 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
But yesterday's report showed that income growth was tapering off without any growth in jobs. The yearly rate of wage gains dropped dramatically in the past two years from more than 4 percent to 2.4 percent — the lowest in a decade.

. Well of course wage gains have slowed the last couple of years, we were in a recession. That doesn't have anything to do with the current job outlook.

The increase in take-home pay provided by President Bush's tax cuts served mostly to mask the marked downtrend in wage income, economists said....

Funny, the New York Times, just a couple weeks ago said:

"...economists say that the wage increases have provided a buffer, allowing consumer spending to continue rising every quarter for the past 12 years, according to the Commerce Department.

I can't find the hard numbers, but from what I can tell the lastest numbers show that wages are increasing.

9 posted on 11/08/2003 1:03:53 PM PST by Always Right
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To: fiscally_right
I understand. I have my doubts as well when we ship good, high end jobs to places like India. However, I never used to detect this type of pessimism during the Klinton years.
10 posted on 11/08/2003 3:56:26 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: KC_Conspirator
I have yet to see one news story that has not reported this good economic news with caveats, warnings, and doubts.

To Liberals, the glass is always 1/10th empty.

11 posted on 11/09/2003 1:50:19 PM PST by Texas Eagle
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