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Happy 228th Birthday Marines!
United States Marine Corps ^
| November 10, 2003
| General M. W. Hagee
Posted on 11/08/2003 8:46:06 AM PST by Perseverando
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Though it's still 2 days away, this year I didn't want to be the last to wish the very best to
"the very best!" Thought it would be nice to start getting in the mood a little early.
Note the link to Marine Corps Ball ceremonial music at the bottom of the Source link. The music is downloadable or you can play it directly from your Real Audio player so you can get in the mood as you listen to it.
My first ball was the 200th. The music breaks back memories of several balls, changes of commands, the sunset parade at 8th and I, etc.
To: Perseverando
Hey, thanks for being there for us MARINES.
To: Perseverando
Happy Birthday Marines. You continue to make us proud.
To: Perseverando
Hoorahhhh! thanks for the link!
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posted on
11/08/2003 9:01:04 AM PST
by
harpu
To: LadyX
OOO-RAH ping.
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posted on
11/08/2003 9:02:47 AM PST
by
martin_fierro
(_____oooo_(_°_¿_°_)_oooo_____)
To: Perseverando
1775 ~ 2003
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posted on
11/08/2003 9:05:19 AM PST
by
mfulstone
To: Perseverando
(Prolly not a Marine uniform, but whatever) <|:)~
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posted on
11/08/2003 9:06:55 AM PST
by
martin_fierro
(_____oooo_(_°_¿_°_)_oooo_____)
To: Perseverando
Born in a Tavern, fought all our lives.
If the Corps wanted you to have one,
they'd have issued you a wife.
Semper Fi MARINES!
Tet68 VMA-223 Chu Lai RVN. '66-68
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posted on
11/08/2003 9:15:22 AM PST
by
tet68
(Patrick Henry ......."Who fears the wrath of cowards?")
To: tet68
Can someone tell me why the Marines seem to be their own self-contained army? Is there a security reason for this?
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posted on
11/08/2003 9:18:18 AM PST
by
nunoste
To: nunoste
The mindsets are different, not saying one is better than the other but after completing basic training and probably AIT,the attitudes are different on how combat should be conducted.
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posted on
11/08/2003 9:45:07 AM PST
by
dwilli
To: tet68
My brother was a Marine,my cousin was a Marine,my son was a Marine,and my first child was born on November 10.
Semper Fi !!!!!!
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posted on
11/08/2003 9:46:19 AM PST
by
Mears
To: nunoste
Aren't the Marines affiliated with the Navy?
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posted on
11/08/2003 9:47:32 AM PST
by
Mears
To: Mears
Attend the same academy, ride the same ships.
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posted on
11/08/2003 9:51:06 AM PST
by
dwilli
To: nunoste
Can someone tell me why the Marines seem to be their own self-contained army?
It's all in the history. It's because of the Marine's
mission requirements as a naval landing force, mostly developed prior and during WW II. in the Pacific as
island assualt forces against defended beaches.
The marines found that to provide the close support of combined arms it worked better if THEY supplied coordinating
units, which understood the situaton of the other arms in a
more meaningful way.
Mostly it's Esprit d'Corps.
Oooorah!
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posted on
11/08/2003 10:03:58 AM PST
by
tet68
(Patrick Henry ......."Who fears the wrath of cowards?")
To: Perseverando
A bit of Marine Corps lore - Origin of the Nickname Leathernecks
It is questionable whether the origin of the term Leatherneck can be accepted as a legitimate member of the family of legends. More like a tradition, it is. For there can be no doubt of the origin, considering that U. S. Marines of three generations wore leather collars. It is as obvious as the nickname Red for a recruit with carrot-colored hair and freckles.
Now accepted by Webster as a synonym for Marine, the term Leatherneck was derived from a leather stock once worn around the neck by both American and British Marinesand soldiers also. Beginning in 1798, one stock of black leather and clasp was issued to each U. S. Marine annually.
This stiff leather collar, fastened by two buckles at the back, measured nearly three and a half inches high, and it prevented the neck movement necessary for sighting along a barrel. It supposedly improved military bearing, by forcing the chin high, although General George F. Elliott, recalling its use after the Civil War, said it made the wearers appear like geese looking for rain.
The stock was dropped as an article of Marine uniform in 1872, after surviving through the uniform changes of 1833, 1839, and 1859. But by then it was a part of American vocabulary, a word preserved, like so many words, beyond its original meaning.
From - www.grunt.com
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posted on
11/08/2003 10:06:50 AM PST
by
sergeantdave
(You will be judged by 12 people who were too stupid to get out of jury duty)
To: nunoste
Can someone tell me why the Marines seem to be their own self-contained army? Is there a security reason for this? When you want the job done right, you have to do it yourself!
To: Perseverando
Always Faithful
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posted on
11/08/2003 10:11:31 AM PST
by
Vision
To: martin_fierro
Good one! LOL
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posted on
11/08/2003 10:14:25 AM PST
by
SerpentDove
(Military: www.neatophotos.com)
To: Perseverando
Happy Birthday US Marines
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posted on
11/08/2003 10:14:59 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(A fool and his money are soon partying.)
To: nunoste; LindaSOG
Can someone tell me why the Marines seem to be their own self-contained army? Is there a security reason for this? Sure. It continues the Marine tradition of as much self-sufficiency as possible, their habit leftover from days when they provided the shore landing parties and guard forces for US Navy sailing ships and U.S. Embassies in remote locations. In the days in China following the Boxer rebellion, we maintained a number of oputposts in that country, the main one being the location of the 4th Marine Regiment [about a thousand men and offivers] in Shanghai, with a few smaller 4th Marine radio stations and other outposts reporting to the 4th Marines HQ in Shanghai. Obviously, they had to be as independent as possible, given the unliklihood of reinforcing or resupplying them by ship during operations. Likewise in Haiti and Central America, Marine detatchments were ordered to slow the tide of revolutions in Nicaragua, Guatemals, and Panama and provide a militaryforce capable of training and leading the local governmental forces, again, far removed from direct command and leadership from Marine HQ.
When in the 1920s, particularly vicious armed bandits were attacking and overwhelming US Mail shiipments, Marines were ordered to accompany the Mail, and the robberies ceased. Come the Pacific island-hopping efforts of WWII, small units of Marine Raiders made a few initial raids and provided early successes and failures in that theater, followed by larger formatuions that could be fielded with additional support elements attached. That sort of flexibility also flows from the Marine ways of conduicting their business.
So for any Marine unit from a four-man half-squad-sized fire team to full divisional and combined services task forces, the Marines are just building on their 228 years of experience in doing their business theior own way.
I'm no Marine or former Marine, though I've had the good fortune of having worked for and with them a couple of times. Those experiences were far from pleasant but were very much a privilidge, and I'm probably alive today because of prompt Marine action on two seperate occasions.
So Sempeer Fi, to the Marines, and a hand salute to you, from one who is outside your group, and aware of its limitations and a few failings- but retains the respect and admiration I've had for your Corps for most of my life. Your way of doing business is not my own, but there are points of similarity, and it suits you just fine.
Carry on.
-archy-/-
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posted on
11/08/2003 10:25:29 AM PST
by
archy
(Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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