Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 8 -10

Various | November 7, 2003 | sweetliberty

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[iowamomforfreedom]

Is he hearing voices? (Schizophrenia)

Hmmmm, wonder whether he's ever had a mental health checkup?

[nicmarlo]

FACT: March 7, 2000 – Judge Greer denies petition to perform a swallowing test to see if Terri has the ability to swallow.

FACT: April 26, 2001 – Attorneys Anderson and Eckert presented the Cyndi Brasher Shook new findings to Judge Greer that Schiavo had perjured himself at Terri's, January 2000 trial. Judge Greer refused to hear the new evidence because it was presented after one-year time constraints. Terri had not had any nutrition for 48 hours.

FACT: June 8, 2001 – Michael Schiavo was issued a deposition subpoena. On two separate occasions the subpoena servers could not locate Schiavo. He and his fiancée had vacated their residence, their whereabouts were unknown.

FACT: June 14, 2001 – At the 11th hour, Schiavo’s attorney gave notice Schiavo would not be available for his scheduled deposition.

FACT: August 7, 2001 – Judge Greer ignored all the evidence presented to him and ordered to have Terri's feeding stopped on August 28, 2001. In his written court order, he admitted he did not read six of the seven doctor's affidavits.

FACT: September 26, 2001 – A three-member panel consisting of Judges Jerry Parker, Chris Altenbernd and John Blue presided at the Appellate Court "oral argument hearing." The core of the appeal is that Judge Greer did not follow the Appellate Court's July 11, 2001 instructions. Judge Greer admitted he ignored the doctors sworn opinions and summarily rejected additional evidence that unmistakably proved Michael Schiavo lied to the court at the original trial. Rather, Judge Greer ordered Terri's feeding to be withdrawn on Oct. 9.

FACT: October 17, 2001 – The Appellate Court issued a ruling, which will allow five doctors to examine Terri. The court's decision authorizes the doctors to only conduct diagnostic tests [RATHER THAN A FULL MEDICAL EXAMINATION] in order to determine if Terri's condition can be treated.

FACT: Mrs. Schiavo's former friend, Diane Meyer, recalled watching a movie about Quinlan in the summer of 1982 after they graduated high school. "I remember one of the things she said is, "How did they know she would want this? How did they know she wouldn't want to go on?"' Meyer testified. Circuit Judge George Greer later ruled that Mrs. Schiavo's feeding tube could be removed. The judge said he was persuaded by testimony by Michael Schiavo. He said that testimony, combined with statements of other family members, was "clear and convincing evidence." He discounted things Mrs. Schiavo might have said as a child about Quinlan.

FACT: Article dated November 10, 2003: "For a few years, her family and husband, Michael, worked toward recovery. Then,he changed his mind. It was hopeless, he contended. She would not have wanted to live like this.

FACT: Read it again. HE changed his mind. So much for his preposterous, self-interested lie that she said she wanted to die. Michael made it up. His ENTIRE case for trying to kill her rests on this lie.

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CONCLUSION OF "JUDGE" GREER: "Viewing all of the evidence as a whole, and acknowledging that medicine is not a precise science, the court finds that the credible evidence overwhelmingly supports the view that Terry Schiavo remains in a persistent vegetative state."

ORDERED AND ADJUDGED that Michael Schiavo, as Guardian of the Person of Theresa Marie Schiavo, shall withdraw or cause to be withdrawn the ARTIFICIAL LIFE-SUPPORT [in this case FOOD].

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FOOD: material consisting essentially of protein, carbohydrate, and fat used in the body of an organism to sustain growth, repair, and vital processes and to furnish energy; also : such food together with supplementary substances (as minerals, vitamins, and condiments).

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FACT: CLEVELAND, March 13, 2003 - Nearly eight years after the accident that left Christopher Reeve paralyzed and dependent on a ventilator [a/k/a ARTIFICIAL LIFE-SUPPORT]....

[nicmarlo]

Glad I could make you laugh! : )

[daylate-dollarshort]

"Maybe you haven't read the findings of fact in the Dept of Health and Florida Board of Medicine's investigations of Dr. Hammesfahr?"

Sure I have.

From the minutes of the Florida Department of Health, Florida Board of Medicene Meeting, February 7-8, 2003:

Dr. William M. Hammesfahr was found in violation of Florida Statute 448.331(1)(n), exercising influence on the patient or client in such a manner as to exploit the patient or client for financial gain of the licensee or of a third party, the promoting or selling of services, goods, appliances, or drugs.

Hammesfahr was orderd to pay $54,084.40 in fines and costs, and further to six months probation, quarterly reports, indirect supervision, monthly reveiw, 50% chart review, 100 hours of community service and instructed to take an ethics course.

Hammesfahr's treatment of stroke patients is currently the subject of great dispute within the medical community. Harvard Med for example has recently taken great exception to his procedures.

What is important here is the substantial difference between stroke patients and the global destruction of the cerebral cortex suffered by Terri Schiavo.

Not even Hammesfahr claims his therapy can repair dead tissue.

[pollywog]

FACT: March 7, 2000 – Judge Greer denies petition to perform a swallowing test to see if Terri has the ability to swallow.

FACT: August 7, 2001 – Judge Greer ignored all the evidence presented to him

. Judge Greer admitted he ignored the doctors sworn opinions and summarily rejected additional evidence that unmistakably proved Michael Schiavo lied to the court at the original trial.

FACT: Article dated November 10, 2003: "For a few years, her family and husband, Michael, worked toward recovery. Then,he changed his mind. It was hopeless, he contended. She would not have wanted to live like this.

FACT: Read it again. HE changed his mind. So much for his preposterous, self-interested lie that she said she wanted to die. Michael made it up. His ENTIRE case for trying to kill her rests on this lie.

ORDERED AND ADJUDGED that Michael Schiavo, as Guardian of the Person of Theresa Marie Schiavo, shall withdraw or cause to be withdrawn the ARTIFICIAL LIFE-SUPPORT [in this case FOOD].

........And to the Republic for which it stands;one nation, Under God,Indivisible, with Liberty and JUSTICE FOR ALL......"........really???????

[lonevoice]

If you have read the 90 page findings of fact, then you do realize the basis of the "adminstrative" probation imposed on Dr. William Hammesfahr that you're all a-twitter about, don't you? Felos' and his paid dirt diggers found ONE (count 'em...one) Hammesfahr patient who had been billed for $3,000 worth of treatments, but received only $2,000 worth of treatments. The board decided that there was a $1,000 billing error and Dr. Hammesfahr received probation for that! (Do you know of any physician that does his own billing?) The $54,000 is costs the doctor was required to pay for the investigation. For documentation of everything stated above, http://www.doh.state.fl.us/mqa/FinalOrders/03-17-03/DOH-03-0182.pdf

By all credible accounts, including the Florida Department of Health whose opinion was rendered by Judge Kirkland, and the Florida Board of Medicine that rendered the final decision, Dr. Hammesfahr's medical treatment successes are brilliant, if unconventional.

[sweetliberty]

Good job putting that all together nic! Thanks.

[Ladysmith]

Atta-boy, nic. Judge Greer has got to realize his own credibility as a judge is in the toilet. Praying he will attempt to right his wrongs and apologize to the Schindler family for all he's put them because of his lack of thoroughness.

[daylate-dollarshort]

Who said I was "all a-twitter" about the probation? I merely said that I was aware of the results of the hearing and accurately posted them. I think that even you will have to agree that I never brought this complaint and finding up in any of my posts. You did. I never presented this disciplinary action as evidence of anything.

As to the rest of my post that prompted your hissy-fit- what did I post that was untrue?

The very 90 page finding of fact that you rely on affirms my statements regarding the treatment limitations to stroke and that Hammesfar's treatment cannot repair dead tissue.

Where's your beef???

[iowamomforfreedom]

Yes, the FL supremes already have their minds made up. They believe in killing the inconvenient and useless eaters.

I believe Terri's hope lies in exposing MS as an abusive and unfit guardian, thus removing him from the picture.

Unfortunately, in Florida he has the right to kill her, if he is her guardian. He has to be removed from that position to save her.

[nicmarlo]

yw, both!

Judge Greer has got to realize his own credibility as a judge is in the toilet.

'Judge Greer', his credibility, character, and compentence:

"ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer....sources can't be revealed but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer."

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581

"Hon." George W. Greer
Rm. 484
315 Court Street
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933

[T'wit]

9. Refuses wife medicine for urinary tract infection. (Women SO enjoy urinary tract infections.)

10. Hires policeman with wife's money to prevent priest, on pain of arrest, from giving wife communion host when she's getting Last Rites.

11. Visits wife, locks door, adjusts thermostat to "pneumonia," and evidently being nervous and in a hurry, forgets to pick up empty insulin ampules.

12. Puts $380,000 contract "hit" on wife with hitman from the Felos Death Firm. (What more does anyone need to know about Michael's intentions for Terri than that he hired a Doctor Death lawyer to deal with her?)

[lonevoice]

Who said I was "all a-twitter"...?

I did. But, you knew that didn't you?

If not, you're welcome.

[nicmarlo]

Yes, very good. I forgot about those other "models." BTW, there was a nurse who testified that after MS emerged from the locked room with the wife he "loves," only then were her blood sugars at severely dangerous levels.

[nicmarlo]

ROFLOL!

[pollywog]

BTW, there was a nurse who testified that after MS emerged from the locked room with the wife he "loves," only then were her blood sugars at severely dangerous levels.

Oh my !! I hadn't heard that one yet.!!!!! This is one tangled web!!

[Krodg]

They (likely Jodi) invested wisely and consider that money THEIRS!

Speaking of Jodi..I ran accross another interesting tidbit. While trying to find sites to search, I came upon this one:

http://www.knowx.com/

I clicked on Owners & Officers, typed in her name and came up with this:

1 Match Found Searching: Jodi Centonze | State: ALL

Click record below to purchase details for: $9.95

1. THE MADD ITALIAN DELI, INC. is a business entity in FL

I didn't want to register or give them my money, so I went back here to search:

http://www.sunbiz.org/corpweb/inquiry/cormenu.html

a search under corporation names gives this:

THE MADD ITALIAN DELI, INC.

PRINCIPAL ADDRESS 1261 C SOUTH FORT HARRISON AVENUE CLEARWATER FL 33755

MAILING ADDRESS 1261 C SOUTH FORT HARRISON AVENUE CLEARWATER FL 33755

Document Number P01000069333 FEI Number 593731174

Date Filed 07/13/2001 State FL Status INACTIVE Effective Date NONE

Last Event ADMIN DISSOLUTION FOR ANNUAL REPORT Event Date Filed 09/19/2003 Event Effective Date NONE

Registered Agent Name & Address CONTONZE, JOHN 1261 C SOUTH FORT HARRISON AVENUE CLEARWATER FL 33755 Name Changed: 05/29/2002

Officer/Director Detail Name & Address Title CENTONZE, JOHN 1261 C SOUTH FORT HARRISON AVENUE

CLEARWATER FL 33755 PD CENTONZE, GLORIA 1261 C SOUTH FORT HARRISON AVENUE

CLEARWATER FL 33756 SD

Document Images Listed below are the images available for this filing.

05/29/2002 -- COR - ANN REP/UNIFORM BUS REP 07/13/2001 -- Domestic Profit

The report dated 5/29/02 shows Jodi's name crossed off. It mentioned a name change but it didn't say what the previous name was....however

try a search under ficticious names..interesting.

DOES ANYONE IN THE AREA WANT TO CHECK THEM OUT???

PS: nicmarlo..keep away from my search sites :-)

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