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To: walden
he fails to note all of the GOOD things feminism has done for our society. Like most things, it's not all one way, there are both positive and negative effects.

I think you, and the author, are missing a key distinction. There is feminism, which entails pretty much all of the good aspects of feminism, and then there is Feminism, which appropriates a few of the good aspects to shield itself while it pushes the societally destructive aspects. It is the classic stolen concept, a mainstay of communist ideological doctrine.

Lower case f feminism entails all the things like the right to vote, equal protection under the law, fair treatment, workplace access, opposition to abuse etc. Those fights are all either already won, or organizations like NOW are not bothering to fight them anyway.

Capital F Feminism is pretty much about pushing the socialist (pronounced Communist) wing of the democrap party. Take for example NOW's opposition to vouchers. It has nothing to do with feminism. That is about opposing capitalism in education so that the government monopoly on education can continue to fail miserably to the detriment of our whole society.

I think I can safely describe my lovely fiance as a feminist; but certainly not a Feminist. She is intelligent, well educated, with professional job skills and experience. She is an independent and whole person; she is not societally bound to 'find a husband' as perhaps she would have been a century ago. But the fact that she does not 'have to' find a husband does not mean that she cannot find happiness in a shared loving relationship. She does not have to accept the Feminazi position on everything. She does not have to support the destruction of family and civil society in order to have the title feminist.

17 posted on 11/07/2003 5:32:57 AM PST by blanknoone
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To: blanknoone
You are correct-- but I'm a first genearation feminist when the important goals (like what you list) were achieved. Good luck in your marriage-- a man who finds a strong woman and is strong enough himself to appreciate her is a lucky man indeed! :)
23 posted on 11/07/2003 5:41:24 AM PST by walden
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To: blanknoone
Yes, the marxist's love their little psycholinguistic tricks with double meanings for words. After all, who could argue against something like "gun safety laws", right? Sadly, our society has become so dialectic in practice that most people get offended when someone who is positional tries to nail down definitions. This too is part of the feminization of society, that we have to repect all positions and worry about offending those with no knowledge, no expertise, and no real stake in things affected by laws other than how it makes them feel as we come to consensus (with sensation, with feelings) rather than rely on our conscience (with science, with facts). There are way too many feminized men out there who are to blame for this, more so than the women.
49 posted on 11/07/2003 9:33:35 AM PST by LibTeeth
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