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This is a great piece -- Richard Poe explains connection between feminism, family breakdown, gun control, crime and, ultimately, the implementation of a police state in order to keep order.
1 posted on 11/07/2003 4:36:22 AM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: Siamese Princess
A little long for the title. That is the easy part

They can not control a armed people.

2 posted on 11/07/2003 4:42:51 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: Siamese Princess
"I’m getting married and my fiancée says it’s either me or the guns."

Dump the dyke and find a woman. Another problem solved. My 24 year old daughter is one of the best shots I know. Shotgun, handgun, rifle and RPG if she had one. She and her 22 year old brother have been shooting since they were 5 years old. Her new husband is begging her to teach him how to be a better shot.
3 posted on 11/07/2003 4:44:58 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Living fast is fine as long as you steer well and have good brakes.)
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They dump the weapons on the counter and announce, "I’m getting married and my fiancée says it’s either me or the guns."

I'm sorry, but these guys need to realize that an ultimatum like this indicates some deep problems for the marriage down the road. An inflexible "my-way-or-the-highway" mentality combined with deep ideological differences is a bad time in the making.

I'm afraid that if someone said this to me, it would be an indication to me that this wasn't the right person for me.

6 posted on 11/07/2003 4:58:27 AM PST by RogueIsland
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Yeah, excellent piece-- surprising that it is from Lew Rockwell.com, but Richard Poe as the author explains the quality.

While he quite legitimately sources feminism, and legitimately criticizes some of the bad social effects, he fails to note all of the GOOD things feminism has done for our society. Like most things, it's not all one way, there are both positive and negative effects. I believe that the positiive effects outweigh the negative, even for the first generation (of which I am one), but most especially for my daughters' generation.
8 posted on 11/07/2003 5:05:42 AM PST by walden
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To: Siamese Princess
Excellent article. Wish we could bore a hole and pour it into every living homo sapien on the planet.
9 posted on 11/07/2003 5:13:23 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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Couples sure can vary. I was in the service for 22 years, including the Fleet Marine Force, but I've never owned a weapon of my own. My wife of 29 years, on the other hand, has five handguns, including 3 semi-automatics. I will draw the line at ten ;)
15 posted on 11/07/2003 5:24:13 AM PST by AngrySpud (Behold, I am The Anti-Crust (Anti-Hillary))
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Commies don't hate guns. They only hate your guns because they don't want to get shot.

Commies love guns, their guns.

How else could they have killed 100,000,000 + so efficiently in less than 100 years.

Wasn't that lover of liberty Mao, in his little "red" book responsible for saying: "All power comes from the barrel of a gun?"

Sounds like he loved guns to me.
21 posted on 11/07/2003 5:38:31 AM PST by ido_now
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A great article!

"I’m getting married and my fiancée says it’s either me or the guns."

This one statement should be all any sane man should have to see about the unbearable trouble and lousy wife this woman will be. She may look "pretty" on the outside, but inside her heart is a black, shriveled thing just waiting to suffocate and destroy his life and the lives of their children.

If he can't thoroughly and convincingly see a complete change in her heart, he should run, not walk, to the next serious relationship!

22 posted on 11/07/2003 5:41:14 AM PST by Gritty
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People,
Get a wife like mine. When I bought my Barretta 92FS, I had to buy two. (The other was hers.) When I bought my FN-LAR, the "other" was hers. Same for the M1A.

Make the right choices in life, for Pete's sake!

33 posted on 11/07/2003 6:32:17 AM PST by GingisK
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Bang
35 posted on 11/07/2003 7:06:25 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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bump
36 posted on 11/07/2003 7:11:54 AM PST by VOA
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The communists don't necessarily hate guns.

They just do not want you and me to have guns.

The guns they have to shoots us with are good.

The guns we have to keep them from shooting us with their guns are bad.
37 posted on 11/07/2003 7:12:18 AM PST by sport
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A friend of mine contacted me about a week ago about buying a book from him. I had wanted this book for years, but I either didn't have the money or had just bought a different book. This was the perfect solution. I could buy the used book at a reduced price.

I called my local bookstore to find out what we needed to do to legally sell this book and transfer ownership into my name. I wanted to do everything "by the book" so I would not be in any trouble. It seems like there is always some new rule or regulation being passed to keep the wrong people from getting their hands on books.

I was told that my Lifetime Book Safety Certificate that was issued two years ago was no longer valid. I was going to have to take the new Book Safety Test at a cost of $25. In addition to the written test, I would also have to I demonstrate to the bookstore employee that I knew how to read and turn the pages of the book in a safe manner. If I passed, the new certificate would be good for 5 years.

But, that wasn't the only new law passed, I was also told to bring additional ID. My drivers' license was not good enough anymore to prove my identity. I had to bring a copy of a recent utility bill or my car registration. I would also have to prove I would be storing the book in a safe manner. No problem I thought…I own a large and expensive book safe. I bought it two years ago to store my books safely so that they could never fall into the wrong hands.
The next day, my friend and I drove to the bookstore. I took the test, demonstrated safe book usage, paid the $25 fee and was issued my 5-year Book Safety Certificate. Now, I only need to pass the criminal and mental history background check and I can pick up my book in 10 days.

Unfortunately, the state licensed book dealer told me that the safe I owned was not on the "California Approved List". The state was only approving new safes and since mine was older, I was going to have to buy a book safety device to lock the book's pages together so that no one could accidentally open the book and read it. That book safety lock would only cost me $8, but I thought it was a bit silly to have to buy additional locks when I owned a book safe. I really wanted this book, so I agreed to pay the additional cost.

Now comes the fun part, filling out the paperwork. I have to answer all kinds of questions. Have you ever been arrested? Have you bought any books in last 30 days? Ever been in a mental institution? A yes answer to any of these questions will mean I cannot buy that book from my friend. I checked "No" on each of those. As I continued to answer the other questions, I heard another customer say, "There sure is a lot of paperwork involved." I looked up to see a very well dressed lady in her late 50's across the counter. I smiled and sarcastically said to her, "Buying a book is so easy here in California, isn't it?" I was a bit taken back by her response. She said, "I think buying a book should be as hard as possible!" At that point, the bookstore employee stopped entering the lady's personal information into the Federal database. He turned around and exclaimed, "Do you think this process is easy?" She quickly replied no and then continued on to say, "Buying a car is much easier than this and you can do a lot more damage with a car."

I nodded and continued filling out my paperwork. Then, my friend had to show identification and fill out a form to make the book transfer legal. While I was waiting for him to finish, a young looking woman walked into the bookstore. I heard her say that she just turned 21 and wanted to buy her first book. I remember the thrill of reading my first book. I waited until I was almost 30 because I had bought into the stereotype that all book owners were crazy subversives. Plus, I found books to be pretty intimidating. That misperception changed quickly after a little education I received from my boyfriend. I found that I loved to read and I was pretty good at it. I read mostly short books, but I was lucky enough to read a few big ones before they passed the "No Books over 500 pages" law back in 2000.
Those big books would be great to have today because we can only buy one book per month.

At the completion of the paperwork, I was told the cost to transfer ownership of the book would be $60. That brings to total spent so far to a whopping $93 plus the price I paid for the book. It cost me almost $100 for the privilege of letting the bookstore keep my book during the 10-day waiting period.

I think I want to start carrying my books around in public so next month I will try to get a concealed carry permit. Wish me luck!
38 posted on 11/07/2003 7:16:18 AM PST by OXENinFLA ( Attempt to evaluate curvature at parametric singularity.)
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re you accusing us that we want to end the exploitation by parents of their children? We confess to that crime…

Considering how many women have no problem using kids, theirs and everyone elses, as pawns and tools to get what they want, this seems like the pot and kettle getting into a name-calling contest.

41 posted on 11/07/2003 7:58:52 AM PST by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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my fiancée says it’s either me or the guns

Harumph - this fellow needs to reexamine his priorities.

42 posted on 11/07/2003 8:31:24 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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Eventually, Wells predicted, "We shall find ourselves almost abruptly engaged in a new system of political issues in which the socialist world-state will be plainly and consciously lined up against the scattered vestigial sovereignties of the past."

We're there, dude.

47 posted on 11/07/2003 9:27:26 AM PST by Jim Noble
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If you haven't already, get Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom."

Perhaps the most important book written in the 20th century.
54 posted on 11/07/2003 10:00:41 AM PST by George Smiley (Is the RKBA still a right if you have to get the government's permission before you can exercise it?)
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Bump for later reading
60 posted on 11/07/2003 11:12:43 AM PST by Live free or die
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When you have gained power via the media, politicians or feel that you have gained power, that is when you want to start disarming those who would oppose you before they wake to the fact that there has been a change. We now have a Supreme Court justice openly admitting that they consider the laws of other countries in deciding Constitutional matters and we wonder why some want to disarm us.
63 posted on 11/07/2003 1:56:35 PM PST by FSPress
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My mama was a champion intercollegiate marksman. She taught me how to shoot. My wife was anti-gun when I met her. She has changed.
65 posted on 11/07/2003 6:38:33 PM PST by findingtruth
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