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Smugglers of Illegal Aliens Gunning for Each Other Near Mexican Border
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 11/07/03 | John Gilliland

Posted on 11/07/2003 3:40:35 AM PST by kattracks

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1 posted on 11/07/2003 3:40:37 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
I'd prefer to see the "Better Fences Make Better Neighbors Act", or "The Southern Wall Border Security Act" instead of this pandering to illegals crap. If the Feds don't want to shut the border, then they should step aside and let the populace do it.
2 posted on 11/07/2003 4:47:05 AM PST by 11B3 (Use the Gitmo prisoners for bayonnet course target dummies.)
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To: kattracks
McCain: "Too many migrants from Mexico, the home of most illegal immigrants in the U.S., are dying in the southwestern deserts just to secure a better life."

He says this like its a bad thing. Remember these are un-uniformed enemy combatants we are talking about here. The geneva convention gives us the right to shoot them

3 posted on 11/07/2003 5:10:30 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
And plant land mines.
4 posted on 11/07/2003 5:23:03 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: kattracks
If this proposal becomes law, illegals already here would have to pay a substantial fine and would be disqualified for a guest worker visa for six years."

Yeah right! These freeking pin heads with these stupid ideas need to be booted out of office.

Anyone here who believes an illegal alien will ever pay any kind of fine please raise your hand.

Anyone here who believes an illegal alien gives a rats ass about any American laws please raise your hand.

Anyone here who believes an illegal alien should ever be allowed to stay in America please raise your hand.

A show of hands please.

Anyone?

I thought not. Hey Flake, Kolbe, McCain, GO SUCK EGGS!
5 posted on 11/07/2003 5:37:02 AM PST by BeerSwillr
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To: HiJinx
ping
6 posted on 11/07/2003 6:54:02 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: kattracks
Since March, at least eight people, including smugglers themselves, have died as a result of the illegal alien trade, according to Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.>>>>>>>

Anyone got a number as to how many AMERICANS have died since March, "as a result of illegal aliens". ???? These *sob* stories NEVER print that number.


Would-be immigrants unable to meet the exorbitant fees charged by the smugglers have also been found murdered.>>>>>>

And just WHERE do poor "would-be ILLEGAL INVADERS" come up with the money to pay these "exorbitant fees" to sneak into the USA ???

7 posted on 11/07/2003 7:07:58 AM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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It seems , with this many people fleeing one country, maybe the government is SCREWED UP! If the Pilgrams had landed at Puerto Vallarta, Mexico would be the most powerful nation, in the free world. After Iraq, Maybe we should think about LIBERATING MEXICO!!!! And free these people from their lousy, stinking, corrupt government!!
8 posted on 11/07/2003 8:12:57 AM PST by blaze (Welcome to the Hotel Mexifornia (WWW.AMERICANPATROL.COM) Go to links and have a cry!)
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To: txdoda
And just WHERE do poor "would-be ILLEGAL INVADERS" come up with the money to pay these "exorbitant fees" to sneak into the USA ???

From the money sent to them by illegal immigrants already in the US.

9 posted on 11/07/2003 8:21:26 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: txdoda
Would-be immigrants unable to meet the exorbitant fees charged by the smugglers have also been found murdered. And just WHERE do poor "would-be ILLEGAL INVADERS" come up with the money to pay these "exorbitant fees" to sneak into the USA ???

There's an interesting point here. Does anyone familiar with immigration law know what it costs to get a LEGAL visa into the US? I don't know - I'm asking. Intuitively, it seems to me that the pursuit of LEGAL entry into the US should be easier - not to mention safer and cheaper - than illegal entry.

I've got no problems with immigrants of any variety - just come here legally, like most of our ancestors (mine included) did.

10 posted on 11/07/2003 8:26:48 AM PST by Terabitten (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of All Who Threaten It)
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There's an interesting point here. Does anyone familiar with immigration law know what it costs to get a LEGAL visa into the US? I don't know - I'm asking. Intuitively, it seems to me that the pursuit of LEGAL entry into the US should be easier - not to mention safer and cheaper - than illegal entry.

It's not the money so much as the time and the number of legal immigrants already here. Once we hit our legal quota of immigrants, nobody else from a target country is allowed to immigrate...so they resort to the illegal route.

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11 posted on 11/07/2003 9:15:18 AM PST by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's good Grace. Come home when you're done. We'll be here.)
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To: kattracks
Aww...I just weep when I hear of these people killing each other. Puh-leeeze!
12 posted on 11/07/2003 9:57:55 AM PST by montag813 (Fire Tenet...Jail Joseph Wilson...Rally 'Round Our President, Dammit!!!)
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To: HiJinx
Wonder if Janet Napoloreno is still in favor of drivers licenses for illegals?
13 posted on 11/07/2003 10:37:25 AM PST by hsmomx3 (Want higher taxes? Don't move to NapolitanoLand!!)
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To: kattracks
McCain gives new meaning to the term "Stupid Party." How about that cesspool country to our South fix its problems and stop being the freakin welfare queen of North America. You AZ Freepers need to tell this doofus to stop blaming America for stupid Mexicans dying when they do stupid illegal alien tricks.
14 posted on 11/07/2003 11:58:13 AM PST by junta (Xenophobia a perfectly reasonable response to the feckless stupidity of globalism.)
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To: hsmomx3
I certainly hope not.
Although, given the twisted logic of Democrats, I'm sure they could think up a reason why giving them DLs would have kept the shootout from happening...
15 posted on 11/07/2003 12:35:27 PM PST by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's good Grace. Come home when you're done. We'll be here.)
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To: txdoda
And just WHERE do poor "would-be ILLEGAL INVADERS" come up with the money to pay these "exorbitant fees" to sneak into the USA ???

These articles are intentionally misleading. There is no way there is a shortage of illegals to smuggle and so the coyotes are fighting over the few illegals available to smuggle. Everyone knows --- or should know the illegals are smuggling illegal drugs ---- that's where the money for the exorbitant fees comes from, that's the only reason the rival drug cartels are killing them.

16 posted on 11/07/2003 2:32:51 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Tragically Single
Intuitively, it seems to me that the pursuit of LEGAL entry into the US should be easier - not to mention safer and cheaper - than illegal entry.

Most illegals actually do come over legally --- shopping passes, temporary visitor visas, student visas ---- they come legally but then just stay and give birth or find a job or live with relatives. Many come through the legal ports of entry with fake papers or hide in the trunk of some car. Most of the pregnant women coming over from Mexico to give birth to their anchor children aren't coming over through the desert. They'll get a visitor visa, then get WIC and free prenatal care and after they give birth they get a welfare check and start bringing over all kinds of relatives.

17 posted on 11/07/2003 2:37:37 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Most illegals actually do come over legally

That's actually unclear, since we do not have a good estimate of the number which sneak across the border. Some estimates have the number who cross illegally higher than the number who overstay their visas, and others have the number lower. Regardless, the number crossing illegally is large and substantial, even if it does not constitute a majority of illegals.

18 posted on 11/07/2003 4:59:05 PM PST by traditionalist
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To: Tragically Single
Does anyone familiar with immigration law know what it costs to get a LEGAL visa into the US?

It's under $100. That's not the issue. The problem is that the number of people who want to come here is substantially higher than the number that it is in our best interests to accept. Thus people will be willing to pay a coyote huge sums of money to sneak them accross so long as there is a big enough probabilty that he will get them across successfully.

The only solution is to crack down on employers who hire illegals. When it is nearly impossible for an illegal to get a job, they won't come because they've got nothing to gain from it. There's no other way around it.

19 posted on 11/07/2003 5:04:30 PM PST by traditionalist
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From the money sent to them by illegal immigrants already in the US.>>>>>


Yea, wonder how many 'anchor baby' welfare checks go south every month, to *fund* more illegals north ??
20 posted on 11/07/2003 5:27:24 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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