[labard1]

In bringing down the Soviet Union and its control of Eastern Europe Reagan freed more souls from oppression than Lincoln ever did. Moreover, Lincoln only "freed" slaves in territory not controlled by the Union.

[republicanwizard]

Oh please. Give me a break. Did Reagan ever have to give meaning to a fratricidal war in which hundreds of thousands of Americans died? Did he ever come close to uttering the profound sentiments of Gettysburg? No.

Lincoln at the Chicago debate:

"I leave you, hoping that the lamp of liberty burns in your bosoms until there shall no longer be a doubt that all men are created free and equal."

Reagan:

"There you go again."

Personally, both statements were telling politically, but the second doesn't come close to the first.

[LenS]

Sheesh. Learn some history. Lincoln freed all the slaves. The Emancipation Proclamation freed the ones in Confederate territory (in theory -- practice waited for the arrivals of Union Armies). But the Thirteenth Amendment ended slavery in the US everywhere. Lincoln used a lot of political capital to twist arms in the Congress to get the needed 2/3rd's majorities. He even signed the document despite the President having no official part in the process. While final ratification by the states took until December of 1865 and Lincoln didn't see the final step (murdered by a fanatic like today's Al Qaeda or Neo-Confederates), he was the driving force behind the Amendment's passage.

The Neo-Confederates on this board clearly need to stop preaching on this board. Instead, they need to onto the streets of DC or Harlem and start telling people that they shouldn't be free. I'm sure that you'll find plenty of people just willing to become the Neo's property. But that would require the courage to tell lies away from the safety of their PC's.

[WhiskeyPapa]

In bringing down the Soviet Union and its control of Eastern Europe Reagan freed more souls from oppression than Lincoln ever did. Moreover, Lincoln only "freed" slaves in territory not controlled by the Union.

President Lincoln worked hard for the 13th amendment. He was a life long opponent of slavery. And he ultimately supported equal rights for black Americans.

Walt

[richtig_faust]

In bringing down the Soviet Union and its control of Eastern Europe Reagan freed more souls from oppression than Lincoln ever did.


Lest we forget Reagan's visits with the Vatican... the major force in bringing down the Soviet Union. .... god bless JPII