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To: Natural Law
In honor of Lincoln, here are a few words from the most genuine of America's abolitionists.

"Their pretenses that they have "Saved the Country," and "Preserved our Glorious Union," are frauds like all the rest of their pretenses. By them they mean simply that they have subjugated, and maintained their power over, an unwilling people. This they call "Saving the Country"; as if an enslaved and subjugated people --- or as if any people kept in subjection by the sword (as it is intended that all of us shall be hereafter) --- could be said to have any country. This, too, they call "Preserving our Glorious Union"; as if there could be said to be any Union, glorious or inglorious, that was not voluntary. Or as if there could be said to be any union between masters and slaves; between those who conquer, and those who are subjugated. All these cries of having "abolished slavery," of having "saved the country," of having "preserved the union," of establishing "a government of consent," and of "maintaining the national honor," are all gross, shameless, transparent cheats --- so transparent that they ought to deceive no one --- when uttered as justifications for the war, or for the government that has succeeded the war, or for now compelling the people to pay the cost of the war, or for compelling anybody to support a government that he does not want." - Lysander Spooner, 1870

28 posted on 11/06/2003 8:47:45 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
You have fallen victim to the pretense that the greatest presidents have been those who have expanded the power of the presidency and the federal government at the expense of the other branches and the states.
46 posted on 11/06/2003 9:33:33 PM PST by Natural Law
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