Posted on 11/06/2003 6:19:06 PM PST by PsyOp
"[T]he lack of gun laws in the United States is allowing guns to flood across the border that are literally being used to kill people in the streets of Toronto."
Toronto Mayor David Miller, blaming the U.S. for a recent incident in Toronto in which a young girl was killed in the cross-fire between two gangs, who for some reason had guns despite the Canadian ban
Ten years later the facts paint a different picture. Texas under the Concealed Handgun Law isnt the Wild West, but the Mild West. No recurrent shootouts at four-way stops, no blood in the streets. Quite the contrary, Texans are safer than before....
Since the passage of the Concealed Handgun Law, the FBI Uniform Crime Report shows an 18% drop in handgun murders, down from 838 in 1995 to 688 in 2004. And a 13% drop in handgun murders per 100,000 population, down from 4.5 murders per 100,000 Texans in 1995 to 3.95 per 100,000 in 2004.
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"You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone" is a quote attributed to Al Capone, not Johnny Carson.
The composition of the militia is defined in the US Code. E It is composed of the Organized militia and the unorganized militia. The unorganized militia being the point of interest because it is legally defined as all abled bodied males between 17 and under 45 years of age. Many liberal groups try to argue that the 2nd amendment is a collective right. If it is then at the very least the following people are allowed to have guns.
U.S. Code : Title 10 : Section 311
Section 311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied
males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section
313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a
declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States
and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the
National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are -
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard
and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of
the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the
Naval Militia.
I was unable to find a verification that Capone said it, so i went with Carson who is well known and actually did say it.
Doink.
Don't believe anti-gun statistics
Lexington Herald-Leader ^ | Mar. 13, 2006 | Robert L. Pruden
Posted on 03/13/2006 12:52:30 PM PST by neverdem
Henry Riekert's column cites the Violence Policy Center as a "well respected, non-profit, gun control advocacy group" -- true, if citing selective statistics and ignoring data that do not support yours is respectable.
One of the group's stated goals is a nationwide ban on the private possession of handguns. That isn't gun control; it's gun elimination.
The figure Riekert cites -- 5,314 arrests of Texas concealed-carry licensees -- sounds incriminating until you look behind the raw numbers. Total arrests spread over the period selected (Jan. 1, 1996, to Aug. 31, 2001) averages 1,138 a year. That includes arrests for all offenses, including traffic arrests.
Since there were about 213,000 concealed-carry licenses issued during that period, that calculates to a percentage of 0.5 percent a year being arrested, not exactly a staggering rate.
And I hope Riekert is not confusing arrests with convictions; they are not the same. Texas Department of Public Safety records show that 55 percent of the concealed-carry licensees arrested were cleared of violent offenses.
The department also says that concealed-carry licensees' frequency of arrest for violent offenses is only 17 percent that of the general public. The rate for non-violent offenses is even lower: only 7 percent.
How about the revocation rate of concealed-carry licenses in Texas? That will indicate how violent those licensees are. Between Jan. 1, 1996, and May 1, 2002, 1,724 licenses were revoked out of 240,506 issued; a revocation rate of .07 percent. That's not an overwhelming number and certainly does not indicate the rampant lawlessness Riekert would have you believe.
In Florida, 1,123,373 concealed-carry licenses were issued between Oct. 1, 1987, and Feb. 28. Only 157 licenses have been revoked because the licensee used a firearm while committing a crime. That's a rate of one 0.01 percent. Also, 2,976 licenses have been revoked for all offenses; that's a rate of 0.26 percent. Not what one would call a crime wave.
How about a couple of quotes from Texas officials regarding the concealed-carry law?
District Attorney John B. Holmes of Houston said, "I (felt) that such legislation ... present(ed) a clear and present danger to law-abiding citizens by placing more handguns on our streets. Boy was I wrong. Our experience in Harris County, and indeed statewide, has proven my initial fears absolutely groundless."
Glenn White, president of the Dallas Police Association said, "All the horror stories I thought would come to pass didn't happen ... I think it's worked out well, and that says good things about citizens who have permits. I'm a convert."
In 1996, many of us said that passing Kentucky's concealed-carry law would not lead to blood in the streets, and it hasn't.
As for making the names of concealed-carry licensees public, to what purpose? Riekert implies that under the legislation he opposes, House Bill 290, a woman being stalked would not be able to find out whether her stalker had a concealed-carry license.
But the bill clarifies that once an EPO or DVO is issued against a licensee, a law enforcement officer is immediately dispatched to confiscate the license.
Straw men are easy to knock down, but they don't make much of a case.
Robert L. Pruden of Owingsville is secretary/treasurer of the Kentucky Firearms Foundation.
Through newly developed technology, the firing pin of a semi-automatic weapon can stamp the gun's make and model onto a bullet shell as it leaves the chamber. The technology could help police investigate homicides and trace gun trafficking....
Nearly 1,800 Californians lost their lives to gun violence in 2004, according to the state Department of Justice. But police make arrests in only 55 percent of homicides due to the lack of sufficient evidence.
Sam Paredes, director of the 30,000-member California Gun Owners Association, said proponents of the bill are engaging in "a lot of wishful thinking" if they believe mandating the technology will turn that around....
"All it takes is a few swipes (on the pin) with a sandpaper or nail file, and (the marker) is gone," he said.
He called the technology "laughable," saying trigger-happy criminals could outwit police investigators by picking up spent shells at a shooting range and sprinkling them at a crime scene.
If someone was threatening you and your family with a gun, could you shoot that person without worrying you'll be the one charged with a crime?
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But when we disarmed They sold us
and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings
said: "Stick to the Devil you know.
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As surely as Water will wet us,
as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings
with terror and slaughter return!
(Excerpt -- "Gods of the Copybook Headings" -- Rudyard Kipling)
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KSDK NewsChannel 5 - Burglar Enters Home With Knife, Leaves With Two Bullet Wounds
Opponent's Gun Permit Is Revoked
Los Angeles Times ^ | June 17, 2006 | Stuart Pfeifer
Sheriff Baca says his action against a retired captain who ran against him isn't retaliation.
Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca has revoked the concealed weapons license of a retired sheriff's captain who waged a fiery but unsuccessful campaign to unseat him in last week's election, a move the candidate's lawyer called "blatant retaliation."
Undersheriff Larry Waldie notified retired Capt. Ken Masse of the move two days after the election, accusing the failed candidate of waging a deceptive and dishonest campaign that "may have damaged the public's confidence in this agency."...
Police agencies usually take such action only after retired officers are accused of criminal wrongdoing or other evidence indicates they could pose a danger with a gun or law enforcement credentials, said Masse's attorney, Dieter Dammeier...
"It happens when there's dangerous conduct, not when somebody is engaged in politics," Dammeier said. "I think it's absurd in this day and age that you'd have a public official who'd think you can retaliate against someone who opposed you
. It's something you'd expect in junior high, not the L.A. Sheriff's Department."
The quote was reported by Chicago newspaperman Fred D. Pasley, author of the Capone-authorized Al Capone, The Biography of a Self-Made Man, in a Chicago Daily News report from around the time of the rush hour murder of Chicago Tribune newspaperman [and Capone associatre] Jake Lingle in front of dozens of witnesses at the Illinois Central Randolph and Michigan Avenue street train station underpass, on June 9, 1930.
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"You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." ~ Al Capone, in front of dozens of witnesses at the Illinois Central Randolph and Michigan Avenue street train station underpass, on June 9, 1930.
Actually, from Baca, it's more like the sort of vendetta you'd expect from a mob guy. The story goes that Baca's campaign workers include no longer undocumented illegal aliens, having been provided with LA County Sheriff ID cards in exchange for their efforts. But Baca also has other problems....
From CA Republican Assembly President Mike Spence's Flash Report blog:
Eons ago I asked if Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca could be beat and promised to revisit the issue. See it here.Since that time Bacas run jail system has seen a week worth of riots and now they have spread to the youth facilities. See a sample here.
Baca has never been popular among most Republicans. While he nominally a registered Republican, he supports Democrats all the time, likes grabbing guns and sponsored a tax increase that failed last year.
His administration has bungled more than just the jail riots, there have been escapes and killings of witnesses while in Sheriff custody. There are whispers of corruption and clearly mismanagement is a big issue. Deputies are leaving. The early release progarms is a tragedy. Some LA papers may want Baca gone as well.
Usually, that is bad news for an incumbent. But in Los Angeles County you have to have huge bucks to run county wide. Incumbent Sheriffs dont get beat in LA. Baca did beat incumbent Sherman Bloch, only after he died during the run off. (Im proud to say that I joined great Republicans like Mike Antonovich is casting a vote for the deceased Bloch rather than Baca.)
So who is running against Baca and pay attention to the Cash on hand (COH) as of 1/31?
Paul Jernigan, a Sergeant in the Department. COH $900
Ray Leyva is a Captain and has been invoved in the Hispanic officer oraganizations. Rumors are that some like County Supervisor Gloria Molina may be wuth him. COH $9,800
Michael McComas, who has filed no paperwork.
The other two are the most active Republicans.
Don Meredith, who I know back when he was in the GOP Central Committee in Pat Nolan's old district, is a Glendale Cop and thus an outsider to all the things going on in the Department. That could be a good thing. He is great guy, solid and COH is $18,000
Ken Masse is a retired Captain from the Dept. I met with him very early on and gave some advice. He does have an extensive network and is a great , solid guy. COH just under $11,500 . The campaign has raised and burned through 100K (not my advice). So he can raise some money.
Obviously, the more people in the race helps. If they all take a piece out of Baca, one of them may have a shot in a run-off. Problem though is Baca. COH $ 393,000 with an ability to raise more.
That's the problem. Unless some one can get the resources in Baca will be a shoo-in despite all the problems. The issues are there, but where is the money to make it happen?
The actual shooter was reported to be one Leo Vincent Brothers, a member of the Egan's Rats crew that included Fred "Trigger" Burke, long suspected of being one of vthe shooters involved in the St. Valentine's Day Massacre on 14 February, 1929. The cause was an alleged gambling debt to Capone, though Lingle had been the recipient of both a diamond ring and a diamond-studded belt from Capone.
It's more likely that Lingle attempted to shake Capone down for money to pay off Lingle's other gambling debts to bookies, offering Capone a deal that for a set price he could set it up so that none of Capone's places were shut down. Capone refused and Lingle threatened to have one of Capone's speakeasies shut down every day until Lingle got his price. Then and there, Capone ordered Lingle dead.
Vinnie Brothers was not the initial suspect; Frankie Foster was another candidate for having pulled the trigger on Lingle, since Foster's brother John Citro was a founding member of the O'Bannion gang and it was soon found that Foster had purchased the .38 revolver murder weapon from Peter Von Frantzius, a Diversey Park retailer who provided the machineguns used in the St. Valentine's Day hit. But Brothers was captured after some four months on the lam, the witnesses who *haddent seen nutthin' suddenly made positive identification of Brothers, and that was that. On April 2, 1931, Leo Vincent brothers was sentenced to 14 years. He was paroled eight years later; the sentence was light because the jury believed he was taking the fall for someone else.
Many years later Miami outfit boss Johnny Roselli claimed that the real killers had been Freddy Foster and Teddy Newberry, a partner of Foster's who had been along when the murder weapon was purchased. If Newberry wasn't also in on it, why make him a possible witness as to the source of the murder weapon?
But personally? I dint see nuttin'.
Missing "Link", National Firearms Act Owners Association (NFAOA)
http://www.nfaoa.org
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