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To: beavus
Beavus, perhaps you're hung up on the difference between an organ and an organism; an organ is a sub-unit of the greater organism. The sex cells of reproduction are sub-units of organs (ovaries and testes). What the union of chromosomes from the sex cells conceives is an ORGANISM.

organ \or-gen\ n 2 : a differentiated animal or plant structure (as a heart or a leaf) made up of cells and tissues and performing some bodily function
(C) 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary (C) 1994 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated

organism \or-ge-ni-zem\ n : an individual living thing (as a person, animal, or plant
(C) 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary (C) 1994 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated

individual n 1 : a single member of a category : a particular person, animal, or thing 2 : person
(C) 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary (C) 1994 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated

79 posted on 11/06/2003 9:18:04 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Would you consider a developing acorn on a tree to be an organ or an organism?
81 posted on 11/06/2003 9:23:47 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: MHGinTN
The sex cells of reproduction are sub-units of organs (ovaries and testes). What the union of chromosomes from the sex cells conceives is an ORGANISM.

Thank you for adding some clarity. Still, two questions still seem unanswered. First, wouldn't culturing of an animal cell be sufficient to demonstrate that the cell is "an individual form of life"?

Second, the good Primate refers to a "human life". I know what is human (e.g. human hepatocyte) and I know what is alive (e.g. human hepatocyte). But somehow the Primate doesn't seem to think, e.g., that a hepatocyte is a human life. It's rather like thinking that a car that is red is not a red car.

Notice, a hepatocyte is diploid. So it isn't clear to me why you made the diploid/haploid distinction when defining "organism".

or·gan·ism ( ôr“g…-n¹z”…m) n. 1. An individual form of life, such as a plant, an animal, a bacterium, a protist, or a fungus; a body made up of organs, organelles, or other parts that work together to carry on the various processes of life.

in·di·vid·u·al ( ¹n”d…-v¹j“›-…l) adj. 2. Existing as a distinct entity; separate: individual drops of rain.

117 posted on 11/07/2003 3:08:37 AM PST by beavus
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