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Internet Haganah just replied to "daleel al mojahid" and posted some very interesting information about these groups:

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Courtesy Internet Haganah: http://haganah.us/haganah/

November 06, 2003

Some of us at Internet Haganah are just too nice.

The owner of the 2 "daleel al mojahid" yahoo groups is lying, but after all that is what his religion requires of him.

Imam Abu Hamid Ghazali (born in 1058 CE in Khorasan) says: "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not telling the truth, it is PERMISSIBLE to lie if the goal is permissible, and OBLIGATORY to lie if the goal is obligatory."

So lying to us about how he really feels about Jews and Christians is obligatory for him. Trying to give us his lame story about how the British started the whole conflict in the early 20th century is obligatory for him. I assume he wouldn't call himself a mojahid unless he felt himself to be a religious person. Therefore he is under the obligation to lie to me, because he knows very well telling me the truth is not going to accomplish what is obligatory to him.

What is obligatory to him? The spreading of islam by means of jihad all over the planet, the subjugation of all dar ul-harb:

Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406), Maliki legal theorist, in Muqaddimah: "in the muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to islam either by persuasion or by force."

According to Islamic law, the world is divided into three parts: dar al-harb (the house of war), dar al-islam (the house of Islam), and dar al-'ahd (the house of accord); that is, the countries with which a treaty was stipulated. [...]
As for the countries belonging to the "house of war," Islamic canon law recognizes no relations with them other than "holy war" (jihad)
Thus, in all of its history, Islam has shown a warlike face and a conquering spirit for the glory of Allah. [...] against the "idolaters" who must be given a choice: convert to Islam, or be killed. [...] As for the "people of the Book" (Christians, Jews, and "Sabeans"), Muslims must "fight them until their members pay tribute, one by one, humiliated" (Koran, Sura 9:29)

Daleel-boy does his religious duty by laying this line on us:
"First of all I want to make something very clear, Muslims don't have any hate against Jews or Christians when it comes to a Muslims religion unless the Jews or the Christians attack any Muslim land or kill any of their brothers in any part of the world."
This is so easily refuted it's barely worth my time.

Sheikh Muhammad Saleh al-Munajjid, preaching in Al-Damam, KSA: "It is impossible ever to make peace with the Jews... The Jews are defiled creatures and satanic scum. the Jewsa are helpers of Satan. The Jews are the cause of the misery of the human race, together witht he infidels and other polytheists. Satan leads them to Hell and to a miserable fate. The Jews are our enemies and hatred of them is in our hearts."

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Posted by rosh on Thursday, 6 November, 2003 @ 12:34:19