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Democrats ahead of Republicans on Open Source?
Linux Journal ^ | November 06, 2003 | Doc Searls

Posted on 11/06/2003 11:28:52 AM PST by antiRepublicrat

Is there any significance to what Web server/platform combinations 2004 presidential candidates are using?

As we swing into the thick of the 2004 electoral playoffs, it's interesting to see what kinds of platforms are running under the candidates' official campaign Web sites. Netcraft has a handy feature called "What's that site running?" that lets us see combinations of Web servers and OS platforms. So here's a quick rundown, in alphabetical order:

For what it's worth, the Republican National Committee is running Microsoft IIS on Windows 2000, while the Democratic National Committee is running Apache on Linux.

As of this writing, November 5, 2003, the RNC has an uptime of 4.26 days (maximum of 39.04) and a 90-day moving average of 16.91. The DNC has an uptime of 445.02 days (also the maximum) and a 90-day moving average of 395.38 days.

Draw your own conclusions.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Technical
KEYWORDS: apache; candidate; democrat; linux; microsoft; president; republican; webserver; website
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To: antiRepublicrat
Mac is for work, Linux is for server and Windows is for Solitaire

No, Mac is for lucite furniture.
41 posted on 11/07/2003 9:04:16 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: CodeMonkey
Those of us with more brain cells than a fruit fly...

Maybe, in time, science will be able to give you that capability...
42 posted on 11/07/2003 9:04:59 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
You're just doing your part to help out poor ol' Red China build up its computing infrastructure

Microsoft tried to sell to them, let them see the Windows source code even. Cisco is practically running the Great Firewall of China, etc.

43 posted on 11/07/2003 9:35:49 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Bush2000
Does this look like Lucite?

To me it looks like the state of the art in industrial design combined with the state of the art computer technology inside running the most advanced OS in the world.

44 posted on 11/07/2003 9:41:39 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Bush2000
I suppose you'd rather have this garish eyesore on your desktop?

And just think, it costs 33% more for this system to be configured to even approach the same speed and capabilities of a Mac, comes with less useful software, and has an older, less technologically advanced operating system.

Now that IBM and UNIX are in the game on the Mac side, Wintel is hurting.

45 posted on 11/07/2003 10:17:08 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: CodeMonkey
We ain't doin a damn thing! They are giving away their code. It's their right, they wrote it.

Remember that they are not even giving away their code. GPL != public domain. The authors retain copyright, with licensing allowing redistribution under certain restricted terms.

What GE can't understand is that the company he loves that so values copyright (with questionable claims) that it will blow millions suing IBM over it, yet that same company could care less about the obviously legitimate copyright claims of hundreds of authors.

46 posted on 11/07/2003 12:17:47 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
And just think, it costs 33% more for this system to be configured to even approach the same speed and capabilities of a Mac, comes with less useful software, and has an older, less technologically advanced operating system.

Who cares. The average person doesn't even need that capability.
47 posted on 11/07/2003 2:01:00 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: antiRepublicrat
Does this look like Lucite?

It looks like a future boat anchor to me.
48 posted on 11/07/2003 2:02:19 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Who cares. The average person doesn't even need that capability.

So Macs are too powerful for people? I thought you said they weren't very good. Okay, you can spend $3,000 on either system. The Dell will be slower, older technology that won't last you several years until you think of getting a new one, while the Mac will last you much longer.

For a PowerMac, they're cheaper to buy, cheaper to own, faster, more usable and more stable. You can't touch that with a Wintel box.

49 posted on 11/07/2003 9:07:12 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
*cough*
50 posted on 11/07/2003 9:08:49 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy.)
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To: Bush2000
It looks like a future boat anchor to me.

And that noisy, power-hungry Dell looks like what? I used one at work. They're nasty to look at and listen to all day.

51 posted on 11/07/2003 9:08:56 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Open Source is good for the government, the people and the economy, and they're [the Republicans] the ones who are going to still be in power in 2005 so they should know it.

... Or, in other words, "when the free market fails to deliver the desired result, ask the politicians to mandate it."

52 posted on 11/08/2003 10:49:29 AM PST by TheEngineer
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To: antiRepublicrat
Okay, you can spend $3,000 on either system.

Take out the crack pipe for a minute. According to Gartner and IDC, most people spend around $800 to $1200 on a new machine. Not $3000. So it really makes no sense -- and no difference -- to compare the high end. It's a niche market. Like the Mac.
53 posted on 11/08/2003 3:06:45 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: antiRepublicrat
And that noisy, power-hungry Dell looks like what? I used one at work. They're nasty to look at and listen to all day.

WTF do I care what it looks like? Mine sit under a desk. I never even see them. So typical for a Mac user to emphasize style over substance.
54 posted on 11/08/2003 3:08:55 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: antiRepublicrat
You know what it *could* indicate?

Could the D party just be hungrier than the R party, therefore more open to new ideas and technologies?

Could it be that this time the D's are ahead of the R's at exploiting new technologies, methodologies and solutions to further their ends? Kennedy used TV better than Nixon. Clinton used cable better than Dole.


55 posted on 11/08/2003 10:01:53 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Bush2000
WTF do I care what it looks like? Mine sit under a desk. I never even see them. So typical for a Mac user to emphasize style over substance.

You seemed to care they looked like lucite. Not everyone can put that ugly hunk of junk under the desk. Some of us have to put that very loud box right where they work. You prefer your computer to sound like a wind tunnel? Or do you like the extra noise?

56 posted on 11/12/2003 11:04:07 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Bush2000
Take out the crack pipe for a minute. According to Gartner and IDC, most people spend around $800 to $1200 on a new machine. Not $3000. So it really makes no sense -- and no difference -- to compare the high end. It's a niche market. Like the Mac.

And most people don't spend too much on cars either, but there's still a lot of Mercedes sold around the world. I'm sorry there aren't enough Mercedes models in the price range of your Dodge Neon. It's good that Apple, like Mercedes, decided to concentrate on quality product rather than cheap, basic boxes.

There is a large market, not niche, for powerful machines. Between gamers, video editors, high-end graphics, publishing and 3D, and just plain power-hungry users, that's a lot of computers across several industries.

Also, in the computer world, marketing means a lot. Whoever makes the fastest machine gets the prestige, and therefore higher sales across the lines. Wintel no longer has this edge. Too bad for you. You're probably just mad that now Apple makes a far better computer in every respect than Wintel.

57 posted on 11/12/2003 11:14:25 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: TheEngineer
Or, in other words, "when the free market fails to deliver the desired result, ask the politicians to mandate it."

Or, in Microsoft's case, when the government starts considering Open Source during bidding or when messing with security, lobby the government to drop OSS consideration because you're afraid you'll lose.

I've worked in the government for years, and it's mainly an MS shop. Not because MS is better, but because the government has been pretty well locked-in to MS by mentality. They just don't know any better. It's time to get the government to consider software purchases solely based on merit -- I want my tax dollars spent better.

58 posted on 11/12/2003 11:18:45 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
What a fascinating way to compare candidates. It really probably reflects more upon the campaign techies than anyone else, but kudos for the interesting story!
59 posted on 11/12/2003 12:10:33 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: antiRepublicrat
It's time to get the government to consider software purchases solely based on merit -- I want my tax dollars spent better.

I doubt anyone here is against a high level of competition regarding govt purchasing. I know that I'm all for it.

But when I read complaints like yours ...

The NSA found merit in Linux, and was working on a hardened linux project to develop a highly secure strain. Microsoft lobbying put a stop to that.

I realize that open source proponents aren't happy enough with a seat at the sales table. They want govt money (our tax dollars) to be spent developing linux. The SE-Linux project that you referred to is the perfect example.

60 posted on 11/12/2003 12:10:39 PM PST by TheEngineer
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