[r9etb]

Good for the coach and principal.

It's not surprising that these kids weren't willing to shoulder some of the responsibility for their losing record.

[mewzilla]

Training for the NFL starts earlier and earlier these days. Charming.

[AppyPappy]

Shamon Thompson, 17-year-old senior star receiver, said that there were only three to four people chanting out of about 20 players who were in the locker room and that most of the rest of the team had not seen who was involved.

Then give the names, Shamon.

[The G Man]

Hmmm ... a bit of a bias to this article in favor of the players it would seem:

"But nobody ratted on his buddies" ... oh how noble of them

"abrupt decision"

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Sounds like Woodside, CA should play Mepham, NY in the first national high school "Get A Clue" Bowl.

[martin_fierro]

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[End Times Sentinel]

I dunno, I'd need more info on Packy's play calling and personel decisions before I could form an informed opinion on this.  I mean, what if he was playing a base dime defense or an elephant package on 3rd and long?  Then I too say "F- Packy!"

 

 

 

Owl_Eagle

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[mtbopfuyn]

The kids should have all been suspended for their behavior but then I've never known a coach who wasn't a pompous ash.

[goodnesswins]

Well...well...well....maybe the tide really is turning...this IS VERY interesting....and I love it...the little twirps met real life for once.....waiting to hear a parent start complaining next, though.

[commish]

"It feels really awkward," he said. "I scored two touchdowns in my last game, so that ended on a good note. But I'd rather be playing the rest of the season."

Football is a team game, and today my team let me down -- LEON CAN'T DO EVERYTHING!

[chimera]

He said players were often fighting, stealing from each other and skipping practices. The staff tried to aggressively rein in the players, even forcing some of them to sit out games, but it was to little avail, Moss said.

Sounds like they were at the end of their rope and had to do something to rein in an out-of-control situation. Sometimes that means just closing up shop, cleaning house, and starting over.

Things have sure changed since I played high school sports (going on 33 years since my last track meet). One thing you DID NOT DO was mouth off to the coaches. You did what you were told or you were off the team. You kept your nose clean and your grades up. When you got to play you considered that a privilege and gave it your best, win or lose. The only "abuse" (it was of a respectful kind) we ever gave our coach was after winning the league championship and going undefeated in track we dragged him into the shower for a clothes-on drenching. Of course, everyone else got the same treatment, so it was expected.

[E Rocc]

My personal view is no one should ever be penalized for not snitching. I know that's not PC in these days of the "Patriot Act" and "TIPS", but so be it.

Also, I can't help thinking that not that long ago, the team would have just done some extra drills or sprints after practice.

-Eric

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

It sounds like running their mouths was easier then running
a football.

[Semper Paratus]

My take is that Packy is not a very good coach to let the situation get to this. This didn't happen in a flash and he either didn't see or didn't listen.

Football is very much like the military, and high school football should resemble boot camp. You weed out bad attitude early and make the players first fear then respect you.

When a season goes south it usually is from the players not buying into your program and the season ends on a downer. In this case a few bad actors crossed the line and ended it early.

[Graybeard58]

""Several players said the abrupt decision was extreme and unfair.""


...Get used to it kids. Life can be "extreme and unfair"

[drjimmy]

Roger Vaught, president of Woodside's booster club, agreed that the matter should have been dealt with among the team. Vaught, whose son was suspended from school for a day and never returned after a disciplinary action, said the problem had emerged because Moss never acquired the respect of his players.

"For any coach, you have to earn respect of your kids," said Vaught, who also coaches middle school football. "He didn't earn their respect. There was not one kid that looked up to him."

With this guy as coach, I'd wager that the players were learning some pretty bad habits before they reached high school.

[wattsmag2]

I'd say the coach should have handled this with more drills and especially fitness drills. Turning to the principal is wimping out. The coach ought to be fired for his inability to lead. The principal probably didn't like football anyway so was am easy decision on her part

[T.Smith]

The team, which went undefeated just three years ago before Moss took over,

The kids handled it badly, but I can see where they might be mad at the coach. Sounds like their losses are not entirely their faults. Perhaps the season was cancelled as a disciplinary action because the coach couldn't coach himself out of a paper sack anyway. If the coach were a good one, but just a jerk, THEN he would have waited until Monday and run the kids until they puked.

[StolarStorm]

They made a mistake when they requested that the players "write" what they knew. Of course they couldn't comply, they can't read or write.

[Dan from Michigan]

I have mixed views here. I really hate ragging on a fellow high school coach, since I've been there myself, but he deserves part of the blame. From the situation so far(BTW - I coached for 4 years and was also a player)
1. Those players that chanted F Coach were damn wrong. Period. They need to be off the team.

2. Coach did a very poor job this year. He lost control of his team. It should have never gotten to that point. There is no discipline. I can tell that just from some of the player comments. There has to be discipline from the start of the season and it has to be consistant.

3. Cancelling the season was a copout. It shows the coach as a quitter who ran to the hills. He had little respect earned from the players, and has less respect now. It also wasn't handled 'in house anymore' either once he went to the administrators. It MIGHT have been solved if it was strictly in house.

4. I don't blame the players for not snitching(especially when admins jump in which unites all the players). There needs to be trust among the players for team chemistry and I respect that. That said, there needs to be a long Monday practice. No x's and o's here either. Just conditioning. We can start the day with 100 down ups, go on to 400's, mountain climbers etc, until they puke. The cancers that mouthed off will likely quit then. They don't want to be there anyway. They don't have the mental toughness. Weed them out.

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The teams I was an assistant coach didn't have that problem. This crap wasn't tolerated by any of the coaches. Mouthing off would mean anything from running laps for the whole team (not one person) to getting booted depending on the situation. Players usually start policing themselves. This is enforced from the workouts before the season. Coaches names are either "Coach" or "Sir" and what they say is the law. It doesn't take a lot of yelling and screaming or negative stuff to get the points across either. Just consistency and mutual respect that is earned. This starts in the pre-season and lasts for 4 years.

Lastly
"It feels really awkward," he said. "I scored two touchdowns in my last game, so that ended on a good note. But I'd rather be playing the rest of the season."

Here's a major part of the problem right here. I, I, I, I. Did his team win the game? Apparently not if you are on a 5 game losing streak. So, he should shut his big mouth since it wasn't enough. He should have scored 3 or if he played defense too, stop them from scoring.

There's a reason this team is 2-6, and I don't believe it's because of a lack of talent.