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To: philman_36
Sayeth philman_36: I'm almost too demoralized to care any more.
I keep hoping though...
Sayeth sourcery:

"Do not meddle in
the affairs of Wizards,
for they are subtle,
and quick to anger!"
Key point: no Constitution, no matter the words it contains, can preserve liberty by itself. Liberty is a way of life, a philosophy and a culture. That's what we've lost. And so, that's what must first be restored, before the government and the laws can possibly be changed.

22 posted on 11/06/2003 11:56:19 PM PST by sourcery (No unauthorized parking allowed in sourcery's reserved space. Violators will be toad!)
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To: sourcery
Liberty is a way of life, a philosophy and a culture. That's what we've lost. And so, that's what must first be restored, before the government and the laws can possibly be changed.
You say Liberty must first be restored and I see no way in which it can be anymore. We're riddled to death with numerous, overbearing legislation/laws. A Cray probably can't hold all of the legislation we have today. Until such legislation/laws is repealed then there is no way that Liberty can be restored as that same legislation/laws will still be present to destroy such renewed and restored Liberty of the life and mind at any time.
I'm afraid that, like a suckling infant, too many Americans are unwilling to detach from the government's teat. After living so many years on the government teat too many are afraid to let go of it and find the sustenance of "Liberty" on their own.
In your example I simply see the cart before the horse.
23 posted on 11/07/2003 12:32:38 AM PST by philman_36
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To: sourcery
To me, Liberty is supposed to be provided for, and protected, by laws. Where can Liberty exist when laws punish, ban and criminalize it?
24 posted on 11/07/2003 12:45:35 AM PST by philman_36
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