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It just reminds me of the NJ Supremos debacle, when outsider conservatives took apparant delight in trashing NJ. I guess when the USA elected Clinton TWICE, we should have all shrugged our shoulders and said that the USA is "down the liberal toilet" and "hopeless." But we didn't. I guess after 40 something years of Dim-controlled Congress, we should have said the USA is hopeless, but we didn't. I guess after a 50 year leftist stranglehold on the news media outlets, we should have said the USA is hopeless. But we didn't.

Likewise, I don't believe that New Jersey, or California, or hell, even Massachussetts is hopeless. That's a crock, and the people who like to throw insults at NJ can kiss my ass. How do you like me now?

Don't be concerned with how I or anyone (outside of your loved ones) like you. That's of relatively little import, especially for internet forums.

Just based on the results of the past election, I'd say the folks in Jersey better get ready of a new round of taxes. Hope they like them, because they're gonna get them. One thing you can rely on is that when 'Rats run the show, taxes go up.

Given your response, I take it that you don't think much of the 51st state idea? I wonder what would really happen if a region of a state, dramatically distinct in demographics and political philosophy from the rest of the state, would take such an action. Would the governor call out the national guard or state police to quell the rebellion?