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West Case Shows Even The Military Has Its Priorities Wrong
Sierra Times ^ | Nicholas G. Jenkins

Posted on 11/05/2003 8:43:52 AM PST by Sir Gawain

West Case Shows Even The Military Has Its Priorities Wrong
By Nicholas G. Jenkins

Silly me to assume that ends mattered more than means in the United States military. I thought in war, staying alive was paramount.

Apparently not so in the Army, where Lieutenant Colonel Allen B. West faces an Article 32 hearing, possible court martial, and up to eight years in prison because he fired a gun to frighten an Iraqi resister into spilling the beans about attacks on American forces. Colonel West’s methods saved American lives (including, quite possibly, his own), but the process-obsessed Army doesn’t appear to care. What insanity.


What happened is this. In August, Iraqi guerrillas attacked members of the colonel's unit in northern Iraq. American soldiers detained an Iraqi policeman who helped plan the attack and interrogated him (unsuccessfully) for several hours. Colonel West then took over the questioning and, to put a little fear of Allah into the detainee, twice discharged his nine millimeter handgun. He fired the shots away from the prisoner but evidently they did the trick, because soon thereafter the Iraqi not only gave up the names of three guerillas involved in the attack, but revealed details of an impending sniper attack as well. The shooting was forgotten about until Army investigators got wind of it during a climate-command investigation of the brigade, at which point the 42-year old African-American was charged with one count of aggravated assault. His choice – leave the Army now and lose retirement benefits, or potentially face a court martial.

Now I wouldn’t advise wielding a rod during interrogations, especially if the goal is to obtain a confession that will hold up in an American court. But an Article 32 hearing? A possible court martial? Up to eight years in prison? Forced retirement? No way.

Fact is, Colonel West got the job done. He obtained the names of three Iraqi guerillas who had already attacked American forces and learned about a planned sniper attack – all invaluable pieces of information. Knowing all this undoubtedly saved American lives (and probably some Iraqi lives, too). Last I checked, saving lives of Americans is what American soldiers are supposed to do.

I’m guessing the ACLU, Human Rights Watch, and sundry other peacenik groups will see it differently, and we’ll be hearing from them soon enough. Their refrain will be some version of the tried and tested (but still nonsensical) “we’ve-stooped-to-their-level-therefore-the-terrorists-have-won” poppycock. Don’t buy it. Terrorists don’t win when we play tough. They win when they kill Americans, plain and simple.

Listen also for something along the lines of “Colonel West’s conduct shocked the conscience.” He may have offended some Victorian sensibilities, but I don’t find firing two bullets away from someone to be as shocking as firing them at someone, which is exactly what this Iraqi and his cohorts had designs on doing. Personally, my conscience would be shocked if I knew American deaths could have been prevented if only the Army’s had played hardball with an enemy combatant it had in its custody.

Humanrightsniks can be forgiven their ignorance. But the Army has no excuse. At bottom, the Army’s position is that given the choice between not getting the confession and getting it but by unconventional means, it would pick the former. But not getting the confession means American soldiers would have needlessly died, which means that, to the Army, process matters more than American lives. Not exactly a message that will inspire Army recruits, if you ask me.

Perhaps the judge advocates in Iraq have forgotten because The New York Times doesn’t remind them every day, but Colonel West and his brethren are at war. Not a war by name, like the war on drugs or the war on poverty. A real guns-and-bullets, lose-and-we-stick-you-in-a-box-and-fly-you-home war. Their enemies conspire to kill them, and they do so at the rate of at least one troop a day (the Times makes sure we remember). Our soldiers, in turn, are permitted to shoot and kill their enemies. With this prosecution, the Army is saying that it is okay for soldiers to kill a would-be American killer, but put a little fear in them? See you in court.

Lest you have doubts, suppose this incident had occurred in early September 2001. Suppose instead of an Iraqi resister, Colonel West interrogated an Al-Qaeda terrorist. And suppose instead of a planned sniper attack, the interrogation was about a plan to hijack commercial airplanes and fly them into tall buildings and government offices. Only the most rabid Blame America First-er could argue the ends wouldn’t justify the means in that case. Conceptually, I don’t see the difference.

Frankly, firing a few shots to make a bird sing doesn’t strike me as a big deal. Colonel West was hardly playing gulag guard. He didn’t torture or maim the man who would kill him. Heck, he didn’t even take Allah’s name in vain. I’ve seen worse on NYPD Blue.

Don’t get me wrong -- I like gun-free discourse as much as the next guy. But the Army’s job is to win wars, not worry that a man who planned to kill American troops might have had a momentary lump in his throat. Colonel West’s situation – like the Guantanamo detainees case before it -- shows that the ever-spreading cancer of process-above-all-else is spreading to the military. For Americans who wants to win wars, that should be of considerable concern.

Nicholas G. Jenkins is the founder of TheFence.com. (www.thefence.com)



TOPICS: Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: allenwest; usmilitary; westforcongress; wildwest

1 posted on 11/05/2003 8:43:52 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
BUMP
2 posted on 11/05/2003 8:45:26 AM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Sir Gawain
Question..has anyone seen anything about who initiated the charges?...they just didn't happen out of the blue...and someone had to sign off on it....
3 posted on 11/05/2003 8:46:00 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Sir Gawain
Now I wouldn’t advise wielding a rod during interrogations, especially if the goal is to obtain a confession that will hold up in an American court. But an Article 32 hearing? A possible court martial? Up to eight years in prison? Forced retirement? No way.

To hear some folks around Free Republic, LTC West was apparently unable to initiate any force protection measures without precise knowledge of the enemy's disposition.

That's reason enough to move him to a noncombat assignment.

4 posted on 11/05/2003 8:48:54 AM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Sir Gawain
Frankly, firing a few shots to make a bird sing doesn’t strike me as a big deal. Colonel West was hardly playing gulag guard. He didn’t torture or maim the man who would kill him. Heck, he didn’t even take Allah’s name in vain. I’ve seen worse on NYPD Blue.

Don’t get me wrong -- I like gun-free discourse as much as the next guy. But the Army’s job is to win wars, not worry that a man who planned to kill American troops might have had a momentary lump in his throat. Colonel West’s situation – like the Guantanamo detainees case before it -- shows that the ever-spreading cancer of process-above-all-else is spreading to the military. For Americans who wants to win wars, that should be of considerable concern.

I really like this guy. He wants America to win thw war. And save the lives of Americans.

5 posted on 11/05/2003 8:57:00 AM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Sir Gawain
Do they ever. Makes one wonder if the Pentagon brass has learned anything from 9-11 and the constant attacks on our forces in Iraq when the go after a hero like Lt. Colonel Allen B. West. He should have received the Purple Heart not being tried in a court martial like some war criminal. If his crime is defending his troops, then every officer who is doing that in Iraq is also guilty. We need to tell them to lay off this guy!!!
6 posted on 11/05/2003 9:02:11 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Dubya
And the reason a LTC was participating in an interrogation is....? I thought that was only for Chuck Norris movies.

The LTC obviously did a good job so there must be other reasons behind the Article 32. Btw, I've never heard of a "climate command investigation". Sounds pogue-ish.

7 posted on 11/05/2003 9:07:39 AM PST by Justa
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To: Justa
The LTC obviously did a good job so there must be other reasons behind the Article 32. Btw, I've never heard of a "climate command investigation". Sounds pogue-ish.

Probably a "command climate" investigation.

In other words, somebody in the unit reported activities (most likely NOT connected to this incident) that go against Army policy.

8 posted on 11/05/2003 9:12:11 AM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Sir Gawain
This whole thing is so disgusting. What does this say to the next captured crazy about how little force can be used to make him reveal what he knows? It's like a replay of David and Goliath, only David is prohibited from slinging stones.

If put to the people, I'd guess the majority would not want our military fighting this war with one hand tied behind their back. Why should we reveal our weakness that some stupid moral code that permits abortion on demand prevents us from fighting on the same dirty level as our cowardly, slinking around snakelike enemy. If "don't ask, don't tell" is acceptable in some quarters, it should be acceptable in all. We can't win if we don't totally join the battle, and American lives are at risk when ever we hesitate in doing what has to be done.

The military has set the level of decency too high when dealing with an enemy that doesn't recognize decency at all.
9 posted on 11/05/2003 9:21:09 AM PST by Sir Charles
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To: Poohbah
Well, if someone reported him and they followed it up in a war zone then I'll guess there may be some serious issues beyond this incident and this was the Army's way of dealing with them. The investigation basically concluded to get rid of him ASAP. I don't think that will have much of a positive effect on junior officers.

There's likely a lot of brittle nerves over there so higher-higher may be sending a message to it's officers to keep things under control and stay in line. It's too bad LTC West has to pick up the house-cleaning tab. If nothing else it sounds like he gave-a-s#(% about his troops' safety.

10 posted on 11/05/2003 9:40:15 AM PST by Justa
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To: Justa
Good point.
11 posted on 11/05/2003 6:56:11 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: All
I bet Lieutenant Colonel Allen B. West does not belong to the kiss an Abrabs butt club either.


12 posted on 11/05/2003 6:58:43 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: All
I Don’t Believe What I’m Hearing; Has the army got its head up its collective tushie or what?
13 posted on 11/05/2003 7:06:47 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Sir Gawain
Oh, they've relieved him of his command, and are forcing him into an early retirement?

I guess he'll need a new job, then....



Allen B. West
for U.S. Congress



14 posted on 11/06/2003 11:21:50 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Sir Gawain
bttt
15 posted on 11/08/2003 1:31:09 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: archy
Good idea.
16 posted on 11/08/2003 8:09:45 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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