Gun Show Rider For Industry Bill

The Shotgun News ^ | 3 November 2003 | Neal Knox

[45Auto]

Along the same lines:

Schwarzenegger, who agreed in the meeting to work with Feinstein to win an extension of her ban on assault weapons, a matter fiercely opposed by the NRA and many Republicans, said he, too, had put election politics behind him.

"She's not going to come out and cut a commercial for me,'' Schwarzenegger said in response to a reporter's question. "I totally appreciate and understand that, and we will be working together like a jewel.''

[Sender]

If the Feinsteinized AW bill gets attached, somebody BETTER kill this bill. I'm not trading in my liberty to allow a little protection...I think there's a quote in there somewhere :)

[glock rocks]

Gun Control isn't about GUNS

It's about CONTROL

[newgeezer]

Ping.

[longtermmemmory]

Someone better wake up politicians that the AWB is a political dealbreaker. It seems trent lott must be back.

[Puppage]

Gun Show Loophole

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE!!!!!

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

The gunshow"loophole"is essentially saying the second amendment is a"loophole"!I think ALL abortions should be outlawed as they too are a"loophole".If i were running that senate there would be NO AMENDMENTS ALLOWED!After the way the democrats have blocked judges,its payback time.The republicans should be totally unreasonable on all issues.

[pabianice]

When are we gonna tackle the First Amendment Loophole and shut-down the Liberal press?

[joesnuffy]

Feinstein and Schwartzeneeger will never ever be true Americans..(even though Arnie makes his money by pretending to be one..in reality is just the opposite...at least Di Fi makes no attempt to obsfucate..her hypocricy or her agenda)
they havent got a clue....as to what it means to be real Americans..who they both loathe...

They are 3rd Way 4th Reich globalists...like McCain and Lieberman...who need to disarm the Americans who might actually oppose their plans to strip the country and turn it over to
their ilk...

imo

[Puppage]

EVERYDAY!! How I loathe them.

[Puppage]

EVERYDAY!! How I loathe them.

[Sender]

I have never understood how Congress can attach unrelated bills (amendments) to another piece of legislation. If you're going to vote on liability, vote straight up on liability. If you're going to vote on the AW ban, make that the sole issue and nix the misleading titles while you're at it.

What's up with this tacked-on amendment crap??? Now that we've got a sure thing to stop these frivolous lawsuits, the minority party is just going to tack their evil BS onto it??? This should not be possible.

[fire_eye]

Thanks for posting this.

I have a mailing from Neil Knox with slightly different wording in at least one area:

"I've been specifically told -- as recently as a week ago -- that if the ban on "assault weapons" is attached to the gun industry protection bill (which the Senate might do) NRA-ILA will kill the bill if it can't be cleaned up in the conference or on the House floor."

Call me paranoid, but the phrase "cleaned up" really bothers me. I am worried that if this bill doesn't get out of the Senate unpolluted by Senator "Treason" McPain's amendments, NRA will get sandbagged by the firearms industry - particularly if large contributions are offered - and accept some sort of infernal "compromise". The gun-grabbers would just love to to pit gun owners against the firearms industry on this - they have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

And the gun manufacturers may cave, as Bill Ruger did years ago, if it's a question of our rights versus even so much as a perceived short-term respite from the ongoing assault by "progressive" lawyers. They are fooling themselves, of course, since the leftist courts will overrule the "single industry" provisions of S659 in a heartbeat - but businesses (gun manufacturers unfortunately not excepted) are notorious for foregoing long-term survival, much less principle, for perceived short-term gains.

The gun-grabbers are pulling out *all* the stops to see to it that this bill gets poisoned with Senator Treason's anti-gun amendments (click here for an example...)

The almost certain outcome if there is a "sell-out" by NRA and/or the Congressional RINOs, is that the "industry protection" portions of the bill will be overthrown by the leftist judiciary, while the bans and the strangling Federal controls will remain in effect.

The Congressional RINOs - and particularly those in the Senate, where the margins are close - will vote to attach Senator Treason's amendments, unless it is made abundantly clear to them that their pitiful little careers (and their equally pitiful little Senate majority) are at stake.

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES. (Don't bother calling Bush; he's already signed on to the gun-grabbers' agenda.) Call your RINO senators, and any Demonrats (if there are any other than Zell Miller) who might actually believe in the Second Amendment). Tell them that you're going to sit out the 2004 election if they allow McPain and his gaggle of goblins to attach ANYTHING to S659.

The Congressional switchboard is at 202-224-3121.

[Dan from Michigan]

Any bad amendments are unacceptable, and any bill with them is also unacceptable.

The AW ban and gun show bans are my litmus test.

[45Auto]

The US Senate has been highjacked by the RATs and a handful of RINOs; the Constitution, the Republic itself, are just so much of a "bother" to this bunch. This elite bunch of oligarchs see themselves as having absolute power over the good citizens of the nation. I can just imagine what Jefferson would say if he could see this group of criminals in action. They are getting mighty close to that invisible line in the sand. The point of no return. I wonder if they know that? Or if they care? Bush is walking on a precipice in terms of his re-election. He cannot afford to have his base "stay home"; yet, that seems to be exactly what might happen, should the AW ban NOT be sunsetted. I didn't vote for Arnold, and I won't vote for Bush if that is his attitude. This is a watershed issue for me; it will mark a real turning point in my political thinking. And in my political financial contributions.

It could be that the RINOs and the Repubos in general are thinking that it won't matter if a few RKBA hot-heads get pissed off; that would be a mistake for them if the Bush/Gore election fiasco was any indication. True, the nation might go for Bush by a 60-40 split in the '04 election. Especially since the economy seems to be turning around, and the RATs are self-imploding with the field of nine-plus-one dwarfs. Still, a lot can go wrong in the next year.

[El Gato]

If the ban on “assault weapons” is attached to S. 659 in the Senate, and can't be stopped in the House, NRA-ILA will kill the bill – I'm told, because “as important as industry protection is, it's not worth letting the ban continue.”

But the "gun show loophole closure" provisions would be fine and dandy with the NRA? Jolly.

[El Gato]

What's up with this tacked-on amendment crap???

It's how they do what they want, and then attempt to deny blame for it, since they really only wanted the "good" provisions of the "must pass" legislation. Also it's often the way the play "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours". We need a Constitutional amendment to stop the log rolling.

[epow]

The AW ban and gun show bans are my litmus test.

Absolutely Dan.

I hate and despise those ridiculous lawsuits which are raising the price of all new guns. But if the AW ban is renewed, and made even worse by Feinstein's proposed new restrictions, semiauto firearms of all kinds are next on the banned list.

Same with the so-called gunshow "loophole" bill. That bill is designed short term to end all gun shows, but it's also the first step toward criminalizing all private firearms transfers, even loans and gifts between family members. We can't allow them to get their noses under the tent with that bill.

[elbucko]

by Feinstein's proposed new restrictions, semiauto firearms of all kinds are next on the banned list.

..., but it's also the first step toward criminalizing all private firearms transfers,...

Exactly. It's de facto "infringement" by Fabian methods. Feinsteins strategy is to slowly, but surely, render the 2nd. Amend. meaningless, as is the situation in California. Feinstein wants our guns, and she wants ALL of them.