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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: nwctwx
The current EOM certainly has not posted anything close to this.

I think he has. (I don't have copies of the posts handy) except that those dates came and went. I keep waiting for some member of law enforcement to yank this creep for making threats. Surely they know about him. Why haven't they stopped him/her?

11,001 posted on 01/16/2004 9:23:59 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: LivFREEordie
What a memory you have! LOL
11,002 posted on 01/16/2004 9:24:46 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: milkncookies; Velveeta
Those are lyrics from a song by a group called The Skyhooks.

That's right... I recognized the song and was just about to post that. The Skyhooks were a pop group in Australia in the '70s. My aunt lived near Melbourne at the time and sent me that album for Christmas when I was a teenager.

11,003 posted on 01/16/2004 9:26:38 AM PST by PrivateIdaho
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To: nwctwx; Malsua
I've been watching EOM since the beginning of his current posting cycle and the longer it goes on the more it seems like complete BS. If this were "credible" why would the site not be shut down anyway? I have always wondered that.

If EOM is a 'chain-jerker,' can he/she/they be prosecuted for posting terroristic threats on the Internet? That'd be nice.
11,004 posted on 01/16/2004 9:26:57 AM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: Calpernia
Put your tin foil double layer on...what are the odds we haven't used our tesla toys already ?...to point out that we might have a bigger one...more accurate and faster acting? I'm just thinking of Buck Roger possibilities, not probabilities.
11,005 posted on 01/16/2004 9:31:24 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...41,000 dead in the Bam earthquake)
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To: hummingbird
Excellent question, which, if the answer is yes, begs another question.
Is action being taken and if so, by whom?
11,006 posted on 01/16/2004 9:32:59 AM PST by milkncookies
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To: milkncookies
What else do we know about the Skyhooks (and why is this name ringing bells?)
11,007 posted on 01/16/2004 9:33:34 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Domestic Church
I don't know anything about them.
11,008 posted on 01/16/2004 9:34:12 AM PST by milkncookies
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To: Sean Osborne Lomax
Oh wow. That sure makes so much sense. Will read it again, later, thanks for all your work.
11,009 posted on 01/16/2004 9:34:49 AM PST by Letitring
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To: hummingbird
Certainly, what EOM is doing should be assumed as a threat and would likely be rewarded with arrest/jail time. It's no different than someone passing a note to a flight attendant saying they have a bomb, even if they do not. Furthermor, if EOM is a fake, he is perpetuating a threat for a long period of time... this tends to take out the "insanity" theory. I'm not sure, but I would guess the Patriot Act could come into play in the case of a fake as well.
11,010 posted on 01/16/2004 9:35:44 AM PST by nwctwx
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To: Domestic Church
What else do we know about the Skyhooks

As I mentioned in #11003, they were a pop band from Australia in the '70s. They had an Austalian TV program and were kind of 'glam rock' type band. Alot of their songs had a sort of humorous undertone and were sort of tongue-in-cheek.

11,011 posted on 01/16/2004 9:39:49 AM PST by PrivateIdaho
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To: Velveeta
He has posted very dire threats, have any of them come to pass? There were several pinpointed dates that have come and gone. As far as stopping the postings, I am at a loss.
11,012 posted on 01/16/2004 9:41:13 AM PST by nwctwx
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To: PrivateIdaho
a skyhook:

Dropzone: Skyhook 5 The first complete web site featuring the Dropzone: Skyhook 5 parafoils. ... PRESS RELEASE ON SKYHOOK 5 Landing planes with ballistic parachutes and parafoils. ... Description: Experimental emergency system deploys parafoils to land endangered aircraft.

skyhook

just another reference

11,013 posted on 01/16/2004 9:46:42 AM PST by knak (wasknaknowknid)
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To: milkncookies
Excellent question, which, if the answer is yes, begs another question.Is action being taken and if so, by whom?

I have so many scenarios in my head...its like that New Yorker cartoon - "on the Internet, no one knows you're a dog" and has a drawing of two dogs on the computer! Is there Internet law that would cover real or punk terroristic threats? Shoulda' studied hackin' & crackin' in college when I had the chance - I could be working for the government now!
11,014 posted on 01/16/2004 9:46:45 AM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: Domestic Church; milkncookies; Velveeta
Here's an audio clip of that Skyhooks song (opens Media Player):

Horror Movie

11,015 posted on 01/16/2004 9:51:36 AM PST by PrivateIdaho
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To: SCR1
"After reading your 'Cave of Darkness' scenario, I wonder 'IF' Osama is enroute to or actually in America to 'martyre' himself and then release a subsequent video, that would seem to possbile be an attempt to incite ALL Muslims to fight giving them a kind of Holy Figure to fight for. Just a thought.

If he is able to come to America and lead an attack, certainly the implications would be enormous in empowering our enemies."


Yes SCR1!!! That is it exactly IMHO.

That is what I believe is the central theme. You see it is my belief that there is a concerted effort among a certain clique in the radical jihadist group to put Osama up on the Islamic pedestal as "Al Mahdi". It is my understanding that "Al Mahdi" is to fight Satan (Moshaikh and according to radical islamism is 'the Great Satan the USA') himself along with Jesus in the climatic battle of the apocalypse. Ok, accepting that as a premise, and Osama is Al Mahdi, then who is left to be "Jesus" in such a vignette?

Who would be (or currently is) in effective Command and Control (C2) of al-Qaeda Global Operations? Me thinks Ayman al-Zawahiri.

That these radical islamists are convinced of the the Al Mahdi being among them is evident by the Black Falg if Jihad they are currently displaying in every forum, and theat their words of late are not words of of radical islamic terrorists, but the words of an EMERGING GOVERNMENT as repeatedly reported by StillProud2BeFree.

Have a gander at what follows:

The Black Banners
"Before your treasure, three will kill each other --
all of them are sons of a different caliph but none will be the recipient.
Then the Black Banners will appear from the East
and they will kill you in a way that has never before been done by a nation."
Thawban, a companion said:
'Then he said something that I do not remember by heart'
then continued to say that the Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, said:
"If you see him give him your allegiance, even if you have to crawl over ice,
because surely he is the Caliph of Allah, Al Mahdi.
If you see the Black Banners coming from Khurasan go to them immediately,
even if you must crawl over ice,
because indeed amongst them is the Caliph, Al Mahdi."

"The Black Banners15 will come to you from the East,
their hearts are like iron.
Whosoever hears about them
let them go crawling -- even over ice!"



The preceding Hadith was reported by Thawban and is found in the references of Ibn Majah, Al Busiri, Al Hakim, Ahmad, Nuaym, Ad-Daylami, Al Hasan, son of Sufyan, and Abu Nuaym.


The Islamic theology behind this is found here:

http://www.compuex.com/as101/mahdi.html

What follows is important regarding the tone of Al Qaeda media releases speaking as an emrging government (to be established in Saudi Arabia and even Pakistan by the actions of the AQ faithful), again as referenced by StillProud2BeFree:

The Government of Al Mahdi:
"People will come from the east
and will establish the government for Al Mahdi."

What land is east of Arabia?

Yemen and the ancestral home and tribe of Osama bin Laden!

Is this vignette (scenario) current for these radical jihadi's? You bet your sweet bippy it is!!!

Get a load of this:



An Army from the Direction of Iraq
When the Holy Prophet, praise and peace be upon him,
slept in the house of Lady Ummu Salamah he awoke saying:
"There is no movement or power except from Allah."
"What makes you say that?" asked Lady Umm Salamah.
He replied: "Because an army will come from the direction of Iraq
to seize a man from Al Medina whom Allah protects.
When they reach the desert in the direction of Dhi Hulayfah
the ground will swallow them up.
Those that are on top cannot reach those beneath,
and those beneath cannot reach those on top
up until the Day of Judgement.
Their motivations are different."
Lady Umm Salamah then asked:
"O Messenger of Allah, praise and peace be upon him,
how is it that they will be swallowed up although their motives are different?"
He replied: "Among them are those that have been coerced to join."

This Hadith was reported by Anas and is found in the references of Ibn Majah, Al Busiri and Al Bazaar.


Now, assuming an imminent jihadist takeover of Saudi Arabia were successful... AH HA!!! I hear some wheels turning out there...where does this army come from????

It comes from the direction of Iraq!

Excuse me, but just whose Army is in Iraq today to come against the Jihadists in the Arab Island which is Saudi Arabia?

The United States Army and it's world-wide allies, that's what Army.

Am I turning on any light bulbs out there????

Sean Osborne, Network Analyst
Northeast Intelligence Network
www.HomelandSecurityUS.com




11,016 posted on 01/16/2004 9:52:28 AM PST by Sean Osborne Lomax (http://www.HomelandSecurityUS.com)
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To: nwctwx
Certainly, what EOM is doing should be assumed as a threat and would likely be rewarded with arrest/jail time. It's no different than someone passing a note to a flight attendant saying they have a bomb, even if they do not. Furthermor, if EOM is a fake, he is perpetuating a threat for a long period of time... this tends to take out the "insanity" theory. I'm not sure, but I would guess the Patriot Act could come into play in the case of a fake as well.

I would think it would be so easy for the gov't to trace and apprehend EOM; maybe EOM serves a useful purpose whose every "step" is being followed...then one day, POW - a busted EOM and maybe others who use the Internet for posting real/fake terror threats. That'd be nice. Like the New Yorker cartoon says - "on the Internet, no one knows you are a dog."

"You like apples? Well, how about them apples?"
11,017 posted on 01/16/2004 9:55:59 AM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: knak
Upthread, there was also a link to a helicopter with a long cutter on it...can't recall much about it, but it was used sometimes to cut tree branches away from wires, etc. I guess it could look like a "skyhook."
11,018 posted on 01/16/2004 9:58:06 AM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: LowNslow
>>Who cares -- All blue areas in last election.

Ah, a true idiot.
11,019 posted on 01/16/2004 10:01:25 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: hummingbird
So weird. My computer just went down, then brought itself back up. WEIRD.
11,020 posted on 01/16/2004 10:02:36 AM PST by Letitring
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