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DNA Dispute In Laci Case
CBS News ^ | Oct 30, 2003

Posted on 11/03/2003 5:43:31 AM PST by runningbear

DNA Dispute In Laci Case


Scott Peterson enters the courtroom in Stanislaus County Superior Court in Modesto, Calif., Friday, Oct. 24, 2003. (Photo: AP)

DNA Dispute In Laci Case

MODESTO, Calif., Oct. 30, 2003

Peterson Hearing Opens

The hair, found in a pair of pliers on the boat Scott Peterson took fishing the day his wife disappeared, matched a genetic sample from Laci Peterson's mother, an FBI expert testified Wednesday, the first day of the preliminary hearing.

(CBS/AP) As Scott Peterson's preliminary hearing resumes in Modesto, California Thursday, disputed DNA evidence will likely be the center of attention.

The hearing will determine whether he must stand trial for the murder of his pregnant wife, Laci Peterson.

On Wednesday, both sides disputed the type of DNA test that prosecutors say proves a hair found in his boat was Laci Peterson's.

The hair, found in a pair of pliers on the boat Scott Peterson took fishing the day his wife disappeared, matched a genetic sample from Laci Peterson's mother, an FBI expert testified Wednesday, the first day of the preliminary hearing.

For much of the day inside a packed courtroom, FBI lab supervisor Constance Fisher testified about the controversial method of DNA analysis she specializes in that can show a genetic match between a mother and child.

She testified that a one-inch strand of hair found on pliers in the boat did not match Scott Peterson, but did match a swab of DNA taken from the mouth of his mother-in-law, Sharon Rocha.

Defense lawyer Mark Geragos is challenging the admissibility of the testimony, saying the analysis was the subject of a "raging debate" in the scientific community and suggesting that the hair sample may have been contaminated or tampered with by law enforcement.

The technique has not been widely accepted in courts, and it was only ruled admissible once in a California state court, in the case of an accused murderer in San Diego.

With the exception of a brief mention of Laci Peterson's family at the start of the hearing, the 27-year-old substitute teacher's name was never uttered again during the daylong hearing in Stanislaus County Superior Court.

The hearing is expected to last into next week, after which Judge Al Girolami will decide if Peterson is tried on two counts of murder that could lead to the death penalty.

While the proceedings are expected to reveal the broadest and most detailed look at the case police built against the 31-year-old former..............

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Peterson will put on DNA expert

Posted 11/2/2003 11:11 PM Updated 11/3/2003 7:17 AM

Peterson will put on DNA expert

By John Ritter, USA TODAY

MODESTO, Calif. — Could a single strand of hair be the smoking gun in the Laci Peterson murder case?


Scott Peterson's attorney wants hair evidence kept out of the case. By Al Golub, pool

Seems possible after most of last week's testimony centered on that hair. If it wasn't important, why did Scott Peterson's lawyer, Mark Geragos, spend seven hours grilling an FBI scientist on the nitty-gritty of DNA analysis?

And why, after all that, will he put his own DNA expert on the stand this week to try to persuade Judge Al Girolami to reject the hair as evidence?

Only the defense knows. But legal analysts caution that what seems compelling in this preliminary hearing — an early phase of Scott Peterson's battle to beat a double-murder charge and stay off death row — may not be later.

Geragos may believe the hair is a key to prosecutors' theory that Peterson killed his wife and dumped her body in San Francisco Bay on Christmas Eve. Prosecutors will try to prove the hair was Laci Peterson's and ended up in the boat after she was dead. A clash this week may be over whether Laci had ever been on her husband's recently purchased boat. If prosecutors can show she hadn't, the hair might seem even more damaging.

Geragos is fighting aggressively to keep the hair away from a future jury. Failing that, another strategy "may be to make the hair seem like a bigger deal than it is," says Laurie Levenson, a law professor at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles. "Then if he can knock the hair out, it sounds like he knocked out the case."

But the hair may not be crucial — even to prosecutors. Their goal is to convince the judge to hold Peterson for trial, not to present their whole case. They may save their best evidence, including blood, witness statements or wiretaps.

In the 1995 O.J. Simpson murder case, a knife prominent in the preliminary hearing barely came up at trial. "It was a big red herring," Levenson says. "This hair could end up the big red herring."

Even if prosecutors David Harris and Rick Distaso consider other evidence more critical to a conviction, they may feel pressure to offer hair as scientific evidence.

"If they go to trial in a case of this magnitude without impressive scientific testimony, some jurors may be disappointed," says Ed Imwinkelried, a law professor at the University of California-Davis. Disappointed jurors could spell acquittal, he says.

Even though the DNA analysis at issue is new to most courts, judges almost always have allowed it as evidence in cases where it has been argued, Imwinkelried says.

Knowing that, Geragos may be trying to get the judge to limit how far a prosecution witness can go in attaching importance to the DNA..............

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DNA at Center of Laci Peterson Hearings

DNA at Center of Laci Peterson Hearings

Monday November 3, 2003 12:46 PM

By JIM WASSERMAN

Associated Press Writer

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - Defense attorneys in the Scott Peterson trial have called mitochondrial DNA evidence questionable science, frustrating experts and putting under a microscope what has become a mainstream tool of American justice.

Mitochondrial DNA, the genetic identification method cited last week in Peterson's preliminary hearing, has been used hundreds of times in the nation's courtrooms, helping convict the guilty and free the innocent, experts say.

It first appeared in a sensational 1996 Tennessee murder trial, but it has been used less frequently in California, which has higher barriers for new evidentiary techniques.

Prosecutors in the Peterson case are using mitochondrial DNA to make a case that a human hair found in pliers in Peterson's boat came from his wife, Laci, whom he is accused of killing last year.

The evidence is key to a possible prosecution argument that Peterson used the boat to ferry his pregnant wife's body to a watery grave on the day she disappeared from their Modesto home. Peterson, 31, is now charged with murder in the deaths of his 27-year-old wife and their unborn son.

Mark Geragos, Peterson's attorney, has attacked the mitochondrial DNA evidence, calling it the unreliable subject of ``raging debate'' among scientists.

Not so, said Dr. Terry Melton, chief executive officer of Mitotyping Technologies in State College, Pa., one of a handful of laboratories in the United States that extract cellular blueprints from evidence.

``It's been around for about 20 years,'' Melton said. ``The armed forces used it to ID remains of Vietnam veterans for 10 years. Now it's being introduced quite a bit in court.''

Experts say mitochondrial DNA - a tiny ring-shaped molecule that's much smaller than the more familiar nuclear DNA that reveals genetic makeup - helped identify victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attack in New York. It can be extracted from hair and bones when little else remains of a body. The process takes a few days and typically costs about $2,500, Melton said.

Geragos grilled the prosecution's FBI witness about the science's weak points, prompting admissions of computer glitches and breakdowns in lab equipment. He plans to call his own witnesses to discredit forensic........

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Prosecutor slowly shows Peterson case

Prosecutor slowly shows Peterson case

By GARTH STAPLEY

BEE STAFF WRITER

Last Updated: November 2, 2003, 12:08:14 PM PST

The mystery surrounding the Peterson case lives on. A court-imposed gag order kept evidence securely under wraps for several months, fueling speculation by TV pundits and coffeehouse gossipers.

Did Scott Peterson kill his pregnant wife, Laci, and dump her body in San Francisco Bay? Did Satanists snatch her for an evil ritual? What about his affair, the brown van and hypnotized witnesses?

The wild guessing only added to the mystique surrounding the double-murder case -- one with a Hollywoodlike story-line that started with a seemingly happy young couple about to become parents, and ended in deception and death.

Wait until the preliminary hearing, various media trumpeted. That's when closely guarded evidence will come out, and all will become clear, they assured.

And it is coming out -- but at a trickle, with a heavy dose of droning about mitochondrial DNA. In fact, the first two days of the much-heralded hearing opened with exhaustive technical detail surrounding a single human hair.

Trials begin with opening statements by attorneys on both sides. They lay out in simple terms what they hope to prove, so jurors know what to look for as the evidence unfolds.

But preliminary hearings are different. In this one, Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami -- who has reviewed thousands of pages of documents kept sealed from public view -- needed no introduction.

Consequently, the public is being fed details in bits and pieces, with no real context. And observers continue to rely on incomplete media reports and talking heads whose view of the big picture is, at best, obscured.

"The judge knows where it's going," said legal scholar Michael Vitiello, a criminal law professor with Sacramento's McGeorge School of Law. "He doesn't need the same kind of game plan you would have for a jury."

Pine-Sol, dark warehouse

Among the unlinked pieces of testimony offered Friday:

A house cleaner mopped the kitchen floor with water and "a little bit of Pine-Sol," but used chlorine bleach for bathroom floors.

Laci Peterson and her sister, Amy Rocha ..........

Early questions on Peterson's story

Early questions on Peterson's story

By JOHN COTE AND GARTH STAPLEY

BEE STAFF WRITERS

Last Updated: October 31, 2003, 03:33:00 PM PST

3:33 p.m., PST: Scott Peterson showed police a parking receipt from the Berkeley marina on Christmas Eve but didn’t respond when asked what type of fish he went fishing for, an officer testified today.

“He couldn’t say,” Det. Jon Evers said in Stanislaus County Superior Court during Scott Peterson’s preliminary hearing.

The 31-year-old Modesto man is charged with double murder in the deaths of his wife, Laci, and their son. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty. At the conclusion of the preliminary hearing in Stanislaus County Superior Court, Judge Al Girolami will determine whether Peterson should be held over for trial.

Evers, who was a patrol officer at the time Laci Peterson disappeared, also testified that Peterson did not respond when his wife’s stepfather, an avid fisherman..........

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FROM THE SHERIFF'S PRESSRELEASE LINK:

"Court on Monday & Doc Online

Posted on Friday, October 31 2003 at 3:04 PM PST ----

ATTENTION: Court on Monday, 11/3/03 begins at 9:00 AM. If you have a pass for seating in the courtroom, you MUST BE IN THE COURTROOM and SEATED by 8:45 am (PST).

A new court document is also now available online at http://www.pressupdate.info. Click on "Court Docs" for the following document.

1. Minute Order: Preliminary Hearing 10/31/03 (ie; Third day court provided overview) PDF (30 KB)

IMPORTANT!!! You must be in the courtroom and seated by 8:45 AM on Monday. Court begins at 9:00 am.

Anyone using the audio overflow room must turn their cell phones off - that means COMPLETE OFF - no vibrating/ringing phones permitted. This room is an extension of the courtroom and the sames rules apply.

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Superior Court, Stanislaus County October 31, 2003

Minute Order: Preliminary Hearing
(ie; Third day court provided overview

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: avoidingchildsupport; baby; babyunborn; conner; deathpenaltytime; dontubelievemyalibi; getarope; ibefishing; laci; lacipeterson; smallbaby; smallchild; sonkiller; unborn; wifekiller
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To: Devil_Anse
DA, I seem to remember something about this from the JonBenet Ramsey case. There was discussion in a galaxy many, many eons ago---about the duct tape used being from a certain plant in North Carolina. I could be wrong, but I think this was part of why they were trying to track down some purchases with Patsy Ramsey and Home Depot in Atlanta.

Anyway, it's always the little things that get in the way so many times.
121 posted on 11/03/2003 8:25:03 PM PST by Rusty Roberts (RB and RG have memories like elephants, thankfallully for those of us who read but post infrequently)
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To: All
Gonna hit the sack all! See ya in the AM!
122 posted on 11/03/2003 8:26:40 PM PST by Jackie-O
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To: Rusty Roberts
Greta just interviewed an engineer from the 'Duck Tape' company in Concord, NC. He said you can figure out brands, and perhaps batches by comparing the covering film and/or the adhesive, and/or the woven layer. Vedddy interesting.

Lowe's carries that brand in their NC stores. My son uses truckloads of the stuff in his SCA fighting scenarios.

Pinz
123 posted on 11/03/2003 8:28:41 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Jackie-O
>>Scott would have to take the stand and say that the pliers were kept in the house, anywhere. I doubt that he will..sure MG can imply that with any witness <<

Not *any* witness. It would have to be someone very familiar with Snott's house. And who would be able to do that? Only the Rocha's (who won't cover for him) or Lee or Whacky. IMO they aren't credible to a jury. So Snott's SOL there.
124 posted on 11/03/2003 8:32:11 PM PST by An American In Dairyland
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To: Rusty Roberts
Wow, I never heard that! If only they hadn't botched that investigation (read: paid off)!

In addition to comparing lots and orders of duct tape, there is also the possibility that the place where it was cut on the existing roll, might match the cut/tear line on the duct tape they found. Someone on TV mentioned this tonight. When they said it, I imagined Lee and Jackie Peterson clogging the plumbing in that Covena Avenue house, flushing every roll of duct tape Scott had left there!
125 posted on 11/03/2003 8:34:10 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Jackie-O
Good night!! Don't dream of duct tape!!
126 posted on 11/03/2003 8:34:50 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Jackie-O
You know what else? Hair isn't going to get caught in those things unless they are opened, and then shut. When they lie in a toolbox, they are not being opened and shut. A hair that fell on them would not remain with them.
127 posted on 11/03/2003 8:37:06 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Jackie-O
True... Scott cannot take the stand. That liar would wither during cross and just have to start bawling, or have a fake panic attack or something.
128 posted on 11/03/2003 8:39:35 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Devil_Anse
Come on, they are in Modesto! Their ex-congressman could tell them: when the evidence is too big to flush, you pop it into McDonald's bags and drive it across town, then look suspiciously around you and dump it into a public trash can.
129 posted on 11/03/2003 8:43:29 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
Generally murder defendants don't take the stand. One narcissist who did was Jeffrey MacDonald. He was sure he could tell the jury his side and they'd believe him. Didn't turn out that way. I don't see Scott taking the stand.
130 posted on 11/03/2003 8:43:38 PM PST by An American In Dairyland
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To: An American In Dairyland
How true you are. Jeff MacDonald. Very similar to Scotty when you think about it.
131 posted on 11/03/2003 8:45:07 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Devil_Anse; Jackie-O
Speaking of gross

Okay, I can top that, Anse! Once when our son was about 5 or 6, I suppose, back in the days when people still occasionally dyed real egss for Easter, I kept smelling something horrid everytime I went into his room. Of course, I took the Easter basket down from the shelf in his closet, thoroughly rummaged through all that green straw--nothing. Looked everywhere--drawers, under the bed, every nook and cranny. Found nothing. Thinking the scent would eventually go away, I sprayed with Lysol, and left the room. This pattern of behavior on my part went on for at least a week! Check the Easter basket, look in drawers, shoes, pockets, under bed, blah, blah. Finally, after at a week, I found a really, really stinking, rotting egg hiding and tangled in the green straw in the Easter basket!

I'll take the rotten apple, thank you!

132 posted on 11/03/2003 8:57:51 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: Yaelle
Good catch! =:-0
133 posted on 11/03/2003 8:58:20 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Yaelle
LOL!! Where is the Daytonator when you need him? (I'd better shut up, Gary's little aide/driver was suing people right and left just for mentioning his name... not that it would be worth his while to sue me, lol!)

I can just see some street corner trash can bulging with rolls of half-used duct tape, and Jackie and Lee walking away whistling, and Jackie saying, "Do you think anyone noticed us?"
134 posted on 11/04/2003 4:41:32 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Yaelle
Hey ... those of us who believe Scott did this (er... I think there are quite a few of us...) were wondering why kill her when pregnant, right? I ventured to guess that he wanted to get it done b/f the baby came out b/c he thought for some reason it would be worse if he directly killed an infant. (Though of course it's really the same thing, the way he did it.)

Others pointed out to me that it was unlikely that Scott would even find an infant appealing, if the child was in the way of his "freedom". That's probably true.

So: maybe he picked that time to kill her b/c he knew it was his last chance to get rid of them both. B/C he knew it was a pretty impossible story, that some random murderer would kill a lady AND her infant child. No one would believe that. I mean, seems weirdos are always killing some poor woman b/c of some twisted sexual/homicidal thing, but it's rare for some random person to just kill a tiny baby in its crib. That, to me, is what made McDonald look so very suspicious. It was so unbelievable that these "hippies" broke in and conveniently killed everyone except him.
135 posted on 11/04/2003 4:49:11 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Sandylapper
Okay, YOU wanna come get this ancient, withered apple? I had to touch it!!!

You're certainly right about the smell of rotting eggs, though!
136 posted on 11/04/2003 4:51:05 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
"So: maybe he picked that time to kill her b/c he knew it was his last chance to get rid of them both. B/C he knew it was a pretty impossible story, that some random murderer would kill a lady AND her infant child."

I think you're right. Most of the time when there are children who are too young to tell people what happened the murderers leave them alone. I had Dateline on the other night and they were talking about the Fenney case in Missouri and that was one thing they pointed out. Whoever did it took the time (and effort) to kill a baby too young to talk to police. Investigators thought this supported the theory that the husband did it.
137 posted on 11/04/2003 5:03:24 AM PST by drjulie
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To: Yaelle
He can't get that if there is some evidence Connor was BORN first and possibly died of natural causes

The leaked autopsy report showed that the cervix was intact. (And then subsequently duct-taped shut!) No way this baby was born, not with an intact cervix!

By the way, you're on a roll these days....cracking me up!

138 posted on 11/04/2003 5:24:09 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: An American In Dairyland
Agree!
139 posted on 11/04/2003 5:33:27 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: Jackie-O; Devil_Anse; editer; Sandylapper; Canadian Outrage; All
I've been pondering the pliers...

We know from "leaks" that his fishing gear was NOT used. I'm surmising once Laci was placed in the boat in the warehouse while he was prepping her, he reached into his "car toolbox" and took out the pliers to aid in securing the weights to her body.

Scott SAID (on the Diane Sawyer interview) that he cut himself "that day" reaching into his toolbox in his car and being the man that he is, he bleeds. He did NOT say he reached into his tacklebox while fishing.

Once her body was in the boat with all those weights attached, there wasn't much room left for poles and a tacklebox.

My point IS (I'm getting around to a point) IF his fishing gear was UNUSED, what other reason was there for him to use a pliers IN the boat, THAT DAY??

This was the FIRST time he launched the surprise boat and he goes fishing in the bay......armed with a pair of pliers. Hopefully, his tacklebox was found covered in a layer of dust.

What excuse could he possibly provide for removing a pair of pliers from his car toolbox and leaving it in his boat? And those pliers happened to have Laci's hair....
140 posted on 11/04/2003 7:18:14 AM PST by Velveeta
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