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To: sweetliberty; floriduh voter; dandelion; EternalVigilance; FL_engineer; supercat; All
sweetliberty, would you ping more people to this transcript? I didn't see anyone mention this on the thread anywhere, Dan Abrams did a commentary/editorial at the end of his MSNBC show Monday evening about Terri's case. Presumably he may read viewer e- mails Tuesday night, the address is below the transcript if anyone cares to respond.

The problem with transcription is you lose SO much that's conveyed by the speaker's tone of voice--I'll just say my impression was that Abrams was just barely up to speed on the case--kept pronouncing Schiavo "skee-AH-voh"--but at least he was acknowledging that there were two sides to this. He seemed mostly worried about the "constitutional" aspects of the case, which I took to mean the FL legislature's actions and not Terri's rights. However, he did not seem to be overly hostile or dismissive towards the Schindlers, so that was good--my impression is he just hasn't paid much attention to it. (I admittedly could be way off here, since I seldom see his show.)

Remember to keep any e-mails succinct, they just put a few sentences on the screen when they read them--they're looking for punchy soundbites, essentially. IMHO, this is a good opportunity to get the word out a bit more. Here's the transcript, it's as accurate as I could make it at 4am:


Monday, November 3, 2003
MSNBC
The Abrams Report
"Closing Argument" Segment
Dan Abrams

"My closing argument: Why the Schiavo right-to-die case sometimes feels more like a family feud, laced with mutual distrust, than it does a broader disagreement about these constitutional and moral questions. Sure, the case has brought a number of important issues to the forefront, but when you look at the facts and the family history, it seems this dispute exploded when the families started quarreling about other issues.

"The question is whether she can be taken off of life support. Her husband and the courts have said "yes." That Terri is in a persistent vegetative state, and that she had expressed a desire not to live like this. While Terri's parents say she does recognize faces, and now the Florida legislature has stepped in to try to ensure the feeding tube stays in.

"But the real fights began almost three years after Terri collapsed, in 1993, when the Schiavos received a million-dollar judgment from her doctors for failing to diagnose her health problems. The parents saying the dispute was over the type of treatment Schiavo should pursue with the money, Schiavo saying the parents wanted a cut of it. The family now says they believe Terri and Michael had a violent argument the night she went unconscious, and they say nursing home aides heard him expressing hope that she would die.

"The courts have not found that testimony credible, good reason for him to distrust his in-laws. But they have a reason to distrust him as well. Schiavo did not tell them of Terri's wish to not be kept alive artificially until 1997 -- after he had a new girlfriend. So when Schiavo went to court in 1998 to remove the feeding tube, it's not that surprising that the family challenged him.

"But you have to wonder, are her parents fighting so hard because they believe that she can recognize faces, etcetera, that she actually does understand, or is it that they just don't believe Schiavo about what Terri said? Could a novel legal and constitutional fight have been precipitated by an old-fashioned feud between parents and a husband? Less about the sort of moral questions that have divided the country and more about simple mistrust? If true, what a shame that would be for everyone involved.

"All right, I've had my say, now it is time for Your Rebuttal...."

[He then reads viewer's letters responding to subjects from the previous show. Presumably they will read e-mails regarding the above editorial on Tuesday night's show, 11-4-03. Here's the address:]
abramsreport@msnbc.com



147 posted on 11/04/2003 3:56:51 AM PST by TheSarce
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To: All
From February 2000 - Judge rejects intervention of group in Schiavo case

[SOUTH PINELLAS Edition]
St. Petersburg Times.
St. Petersburg: Feb 11, 2000. pg. 10.B
Copyright Times Publishing Co. Feb 11, 2000


(excerpt)
Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer will not allow a group of doctors, lawyers and other professionals to intervene in the case of a St. Petersburg woman with brain damage whose family is divided on whether to remove her feeding tube. Professionals for Excellence in Health Care wanted the judge to allow them to argue that Terri Schiavo, 36, should be kept alive despite her husband's request to let her die.

In his order denying the motion, Greer writes that the group's arguments are philosophical and perhaps should be directed to state lawmakers.


Hmmmmmmm, isn't that Terri's Law in 2003?
148 posted on 11/04/2003 4:45:40 AM PST by mommy23
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To: TheSarce
a family feud

To me, Terri's fight is about good and evil. It is not in any way a "family feud." Schiavo was never a part of the Schindler family except through marriage, and he set aside that "marriage" long ago. No, the Schindlers and Schiavo are not really related in any true meaning of that word. Only liberal media would purport this tragedy as a "family feud." To say, it is a "family feud" is to belittle its significance.
149 posted on 11/04/2003 5:39:32 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: TheSarce; Mo1; kenth; Republic; texasbluebell; MarMema; longtermmemmory; Ragtime Cowgirl; ...
Terri's Army ping! Read "TheSarce's" post #147.

If you want on or off this list, please let me know.

159 posted on 11/04/2003 8:10:09 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: TheSarce
Just sent an email--longer than I wanted it to be but I had too much to say. I don't get MSNBC so I hope you will comment on the viewer comments he reads. Thanks.
168 posted on 11/04/2003 9:19:02 AM PST by krunkygirl
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