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To: DannyTN
It's going to take a lot of tap dancing to get me to believe DNA spontaneously came together. Black Smokers not withstanding.

DNA came much later. RNA (or possibly a simpler RNA analogue) came first.

The process of abiogenesis had many steps that must be explained, and these holes in our knowledge are slowly (but surely) being filled. So those of us who are unafraid of the science see each new discovery & say, "fascinating, good work!" While you who are afraid of us finding how life got started get another chance to say "yeah but look at all the problems that remain over here!"

Interesting how one side of the debate always ends up cheering each new discovery or intriguing theory, while the other side always gets nervous at new discoveries.

34 posted on 11/02/2003 6:24:50 PM PST by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: jennyp
I tend to believe that mainstream scientific theists are unafraid of scientific discoveries--as it almost always points to a Creator.

This is especially true in the following fields: physics, origin of life, and origin of consciousness.

The improbabilies that the universe was 1) spontaneously generated and 2) beset with the unique and improbable laws of physics (as opposed to trillions of other possibilies outlined in singularity physics) post to the existence of a Creator.

The nearly complete faith foundation of abiogenesis is another--sure there are some theories, but they all seem to have unsurmountable challenges ahead.

I don't know much about these smokestacks, other than they much be both hydrophobic AND phyllic at different times to allow for peptide bonding (a major oversight of many). Also these smokestacks can only be within a certain temp range if certain chemical reactions deemed necessary for even the most simple lifeform (save the immigrated lifeforms near sulfur vents) to function.

The RNA world hypothesis is nearly discredited as being way to advanced for the times. Self-catalyzing RNA outside of a cell is impossibly improbable. And if somehow self-catalyzing RNA got into a "cell," complete with protein channels and a phospholipied layer (also dubious), then it would need a ribosomal structure to synthesize proteins.

And don't even get me started on the mother-of-all-improbabilities--that consciousness could have evolved in the brain over a few million years!
53 posted on 11/02/2003 8:12:33 PM PST by Loc123
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