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To: Vercingetorix
Evolution is about as close to fact as you can get in the natural sciences.

It is a basic assumption of biology and genetics.

At the same time, science does not use the term fact when it comes to it's theories, or most scientists don't anyway, and shouldn't. There must always be room to change, and facts are hard immovable things, that's why science does not like the term.
103 posted on 11/03/2003 12:38:12 PM PST by Ogmios (Since when is 66 senate votes for judicial confirmations constitutional?)
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To: Ogmios
I've been on the FR ... this is my 6th year --- and personally I have outed - offed more liberal disrupters than probably anyone else --- put together !

For the 1st two years I kept a list in my memory I couldn't keep up with ...

I ain't gonna back down to any of you !

Will FR - America become a science fiction cult like you - yours ... there is ultimately an exit strategy for you - your cult buddies coming --- soon - hard !
105 posted on 11/03/2003 12:47:33 PM PST by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: Ogmios
"At the same time, science does not use the term fact when it comes to it's theories, or most scientists don't anyway, and shouldn't." -- Ogmios

Theories of evolution purport to explain the fact of evolution. Clearly the vast geological record of fossil species is a fact. The genomes of living species are facts. The explanation (e.g., natural selection) is the theory.

106 posted on 11/03/2003 1:00:33 PM PST by Vercingetorix
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To: Ogmios
The two basic observations that lead to evolutionary theory can be (anthropomorphically) stated:

1. Offspring generally differ from their parents.

2. Those with more children generally have more grandchildren.


116 posted on 11/03/2003 1:30:42 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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