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Peanuts no small danger
Columbus Dispatch ^ | 02 November 2003 | Tiffany Y . Latta

Posted on 11/02/2003 10:04:07 AM PST by Deadeye Division

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To: DumpsterDiver
The developed world has become so antiseptic that kids don't build up natural immunity, and their bodies overreact when exposed to allergens.

The developed world has become so antiseptic that kids don't build up natural immunity, and their bodies overreact when exposed to allergens.

The developed world has become so antiseptic that kids don't build up natural immunity, and their bodies overreact when exposed to allergens.

I think he's got it!

101 posted on 11/02/2003 2:18:39 PM PST by abner (In search of a witty tag line...)
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To: netmilsmom
I don't have the information to make a valid reply about any change in the incidence of allergies, or if such a change has occurred. I try not to have opinions about what is true and not true on any subject where I don't believe myself to be qualified.

It is not that I am not curious, because I am very much out of the ordinary in my desire for a "rich field".

My #93 is aimed at a different person than you, but expresses my point of view.

"Opinion" is the same thing as "point of view", of course. My experience is that nothing is gained by having an opinion on any subject without special expertise. Still have them, though!!! Just ask my wife!!!

102 posted on 11/02/2003 2:20:38 PM PST by Iris7 (Victory, always Victory. "Duty, Honor, Country". The first is Duty, and known only by His Grace.)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
West Nile Disease and SARS weren't diagnosed so many years ago but,WALLAHA!!!! There they are now.

If you become ill and your Doctor tells you that you have an allergy to some food or thing, you just laugh in his face and go home and pig out on whatever it is. R.I.P. sucker!!!!
103 posted on 11/02/2003 2:22:25 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If you seen yourself as other people do, you'd laugh too.)
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To: All
I think the bigger question here is why there are so many more children suffering from these allergies (real or imagined) and asthma.

I'm 49 and I don't remember anyone from my childhood who was either allergic or asmathic.

Any science types out there with an explanation?

When my children were small I heartily subscribed to the idea that dirt (in moderation) and germs (again, in moderation) were good things for children. When my oldest was a toddler, my XMIL used to sterilize an toy she threw on the floor. My XSIL picked up on that habit, and her daughter suffered constantly from every germ to fly in the door.
104 posted on 11/02/2003 2:25:52 PM PST by LuLuLuLu (There is a fine line between genius and insanity, and I've erased it.)
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To: Lion Den Dan
Probably simpler than that.

we are now raising kids in a more sterile environment, and their natural immune system doesn't fully develop.

105 posted on 11/02/2003 2:27:08 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (You realize, of course, this means war?" B Bunny)
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To: William Terrell
So?

And?

Or are you just trivially stating the obvious thinking you have discovered something new??

Have you just found out that people have to work for a living? That without constant effort people starve and die?

106 posted on 11/02/2003 2:31:00 PM PST by Iris7 (Victory, always Victory. "Duty, Honor, Country". The first is Duty, and known only by His Grace.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Myself and my daughter have had the same problem.

Mine started when I was about 14 yr. old same with my daughter.
Sometimes I would get the symptoms once a week. Over the years it has slowed down to maybe twice a year.
I noticed that I usually got a migraine when I had minor stuffiness, sinus trouble, which has subsided as I've gotten older.
Same symptoms as you. 'Aura' ,blank vision, dull headache. The headache would linger for hours.

That is the main reason I never tried to get a pilot's license. That would have disqualified me.

BTW. I eat all kinds of nuts, primarily cashews.

107 posted on 11/02/2003 2:31:01 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: rwfromkansas
Bears some resemblance to A+ Bert, doesn't he?
108 posted on 11/02/2003 2:33:20 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If you seen yourself as other people do, you'd laugh too.)
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To: rwfromkansas
>>I don't know. There really are social darwinists on FR.<<

Really? I guess I should watch what I say. I've said some things about liberals that could be taken that way.
I think that it was someone trying to be cute that did not succeed. He dropped a bomb and left. Don't get me wrong, I care about the children who have this disorder, but I also agree that a milder case, with a hysterical mother can cause my daughter to have nothing to eat for lunch. We actually had one of these moms try to demand no peanut butter in the lunch room because her child was allergic. Thank GOD one of the teachers had more sense and said that this child could eat in the teacher's lunchroom.
I do not want to see any kind of harm come to this child. If it were my daughter, I would homeschool or take my child out to my car for lunch. Why should the whole school have to change for my kid??
109 posted on 11/02/2003 2:36:36 PM PST by netmilsmom ( We are SITCOMs-single income, two kids, oppressive mortgage.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
"If you become ill and your Doctor tells you that you have an allergy to some food or thing, you just laugh in his face and go home and pig out on whatever it is. R.I.P. sucker!!!!"

I almost died from a food allergy to dried Polish mushrooms I ate 1 time in a huge amount.

Doesn't mean I become a food allergy whacko who is overly concerned (obsessed in many cases) with analyzing all food constantly.

Nor do I act like thought police if someone disagrees with food allergy activists.

Food allergies can be serious, but political movements based on them turn me off.
110 posted on 11/02/2003 2:37:25 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals (Screw 'the security' plan in Iraq. It's time to 'go Saddam' on their medieval asses...)
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To: netmilsmom
I agree about not making the school change.

It seems to be that there are social darwinists on FR; it seems to run in some conservatives....maybe the macho male thing. But, I am not saying there are many.
111 posted on 11/02/2003 2:41:06 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: Maceman
I raised three kids.

Nothing abstract about the analysis. Matter of fact it wasn't an analysis; it was an observation of physical presence.

Does the rattlesnake not bite you because you love it and rattlesnakes in general? When you step on a rotten ledge and are plunging to you death on the rocks below, can you acknowledge your mistake and return to the top to step in a safer place? When you pay welfare mothers to have deadbeat and dependent children does that reduce the deadbeat kids being born?

112 posted on 11/02/2003 2:41:14 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Iris7
I was stating the obvious to someone to whom it was not obvious.

113 posted on 11/02/2003 2:42:50 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: freedumb2003
"And if people keep over-cleaning the bugs will just get stronger "

Well...guess my grand kids won't have to worry...their stay at home mother (My dil) cleans the bathroom about once a month (6), lets cats crawl all over the limited kitchen counters and kitchen table....and poop in the clean clothes basket....

114 posted on 11/02/2003 2:53:08 PM PST by goodnesswins (Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free.)
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To: Lion Den Dan
Why are there more peanut allergic kids than years ago?

It is not because they are protected now.

It is not just nut allergies either. Something very serious has been going on for the last fifty years. It's worldwide and worsening.

It is even causing low birth weight babies, and mental retardation.

Strontium 90?
115 posted on 11/02/2003 2:56:54 PM PST by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: freedumb2003
Allergies & cleanliness or a lack of it, have no connection. Neither is there any connection between allergies & germs. A person is born with genes that causes allergies. It has nothing to do with eating mudpies or using antibiotic soap.
116 posted on 11/02/2003 2:57:15 PM PST by Ditter
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To: MediaMole
I've seen a person react like that to a cat, just finding out that a cat lived in the house....not even seeing it.
117 posted on 11/02/2003 2:57:39 PM PST by goodnesswins (Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free.)
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To: goodnesswins
You just heard of one, me.
118 posted on 11/02/2003 2:59:10 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian
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To: goodnesswins
Well...guess my grand kids won't have to worry...their stay at home mother (My dil) cleans the bathroom about once a month (6), lets cats crawl all over the limited kitchen counters and kitchen table....and poop in the clean clothes basket....

Ya know, I need to remember to add "within reason" when I post things such as this that suggest "a little dirt is good."

I think what you describe is probably boarderline child abuse.

119 posted on 11/02/2003 2:59:56 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Dried Polish mushrooms? That sounds about as appetizing as dried horse bisquits. You quite sure the threat to your life wasn't from whatever you consumed prior to ordering such an unusual entre, or even from whatever beverage you must have consumed in great quantities to wash this stuff down your throat.

We are all thankful that you survived that incident.....honest.

I don't think anyone here is implying that you should stop thinking. We are just concerned that such thoughts could be hazadorus to your health.

Food allergies being used to power political movements is a turn off for most thinking people. Too many people though seem to think of people with life threatening food allergies as some kind of hypochondriacs , to the point that some seem to thing it is humours to expose them to the substance that can kill them. In such instances it is the duty of government to protect them by law, just as much as protecting the public from crime and other threats to law abiding citizens.
120 posted on 11/02/2003 3:10:08 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If you seen yourself as other people do, you'd laugh too.)
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