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To: bvw
"Where has been the Muslim uproar against the terror of 9/11? It simply HAS NOT BEEN. What we have heard instead is massive silence and some celebration. The disclaimers -- a few -- TOO FEW!"

I agree...the silence from the Muslim-Americans has been deafening.

"Mr. Bush's celebration of Ramadan is the vice of honoring the corrupt, the violent."

I disagree, but I understand yer sentiment.

"Not all Muslims are violent -- there are among them some of the most peaceable people in the world. But those people are not heard, that sentiment of peace is missing from the concept of modern Muslim popular religion. Until the Muslims, themselves, make that desire for peace manifest, loud, rising in popularity, there can be no truck with that religion. It must be shunned, outcast."

If you do that, you play right into the Islamic-fanatics hands by making this a Holy War on both sides, wherein presently there is only one side waging a holy war. The ability to maintain a separation between the Islamo-Fascists and the mainstream Muslims is key to winning this War On Terrorism over the long run. Celebrating Ramadan is but one way to signal to the Muslim-American community just how blatant the Good Versus Evil dichotomy is in this war.

FReegards...MUD

304 posted on 11/02/2003 7:56:35 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim
The mainstream Muslims? Well just who are they? There's a lot of wishful thinking about "mainstream Muslims", the peaceable kind -- but they are not heard from, and every news report from muslim countries brings more stories, reports, cartoons saying "mainstream Muslims" continue to entertain the demons of hate and murder against America and Israel.

Honesty there are many peaceful Muslims ... but fewer and fewer of them appear as voices in the ranks of the popular religion. The leaders need to speak and act wholehearted for peace, to promote the sentiment in public, and that is NOT happening.

And to honor such rotten leadership provokes future bloodshed.

305 posted on 11/02/2003 8:05:24 PM PST by bvw
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To: Mudboy Slim
Slim, I don't think I've ever seen a post by you before, but you nailed it dead on with this one. I've known hundreds, if not thousands, of Muslims, mostly Sunni, and mostly Turks. They are good people, in general. As good as Americans. Like us, they have their slimeballs, too, unfortunately. I'm afraid I'm still waiting for the great outcry, myself... but I do expect, someday, to hear it. I don't think the Turks have anything like FR, and how else would taxi drivers and furniture salesmen and jewelers and waiters have any sort of voice we COULD hear? The internet is probably more important to freedom than the printing press was.
332 posted on 11/08/2003 7:45:25 PM PST by Old Student
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