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To: #3Fan
There were men in that Humvee that were killed. Were they out of their element also?

No, they were men and therefore biologically designed, with a firmware operating system, to deal and defend against brute force.

Nor on the part of the men that were killed in the Humvee then.

They were dead and thus incapable of action. The men that were not out of it, fought. Miss Lynch did not fight. Her weapon "jammed".

She was there because she went when called. If you have issues with Clinton, Lynch isn't a good poster-child for your cause.

She was there, by her own statement, for employment opportunities. I have issues with Bubba, and Miss Lynch has certainly been made a poster child for his policies.

No, she was rescued in the first successful POW rescue mission since WW2. We remember the ones that happen to be unique, fact of life.

She had no business there in the first place. She must weigh 125 soaking wet, with fragile physique and no upper body strength capable of throwing a grenade farther than its own killing radius.

We put real war assets in danger to get her out, when rescue attempts historically is to get captured fighters out to return to the front. With the rest of what happened, it is obvious that this was a political mission, which are rare, but do exist in time of war.

Because they namecall and focus on the negative. They nitpick.

They are frustrated with lies and fraud to turn a stabile society on its head, ignoring the unalterable characteristics of Nature, with the resulting chaos and instability for all.

I applaude them for pointing out the cracks (nitpicking) in the media structure built around Miss Lynch and the negative implications of that deceitful structure are legion. Were you not in a victim of liberal conditioning, you would be, too.

What propaganda?

You're telling me that you actually are unaware of the artificial hype around Miss Lynch? I'm afraid I can't buy the "just wanting to honor those that had a hard time". I read what you have to say on other Lynch threads and don't get that impression. I don't think you can deny that Miss Lynch is getting away and gone more attention than others have gotten who really did something.

Why do you think that is? And what purpose do you think that such hype is designed to serve?

34 posted on 11/02/2003 12:51:09 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
No, they were men and therefore biologically designed, with a firmware operating system, to deal and defend against brute force.

Then why didn't they? It seems to me they did no better than Lynch. That tells me that Lynch wasn't injured because she was out of her element, but because she was in a Humvee crash since the men were incapacited also. The only female you can claim that may have been a drag to the resistance might have been Shoshana since she was the only female still able to fight. Whether she did well or not I don't know because I'm not worried about every little detail to nitpick on our soldiers. I'll let the Army worry about that.

They were dead and thus incapable of action. The men that were not out of it, fought. Miss Lynch did not fight. Her weapon "jammed".

Miller thought Lynch was dead. There've been several reports that she was unconscious. You can't blame Lynch for this if she did no worse than the men that were with her in the Humvee.

She was there, by her own statement, for employment opportunities.

Most men join for the money also.

I have issues with Bubba, and Miss Lynch has certainly been made a poster child for his policies.

She shouldn't be. She, like the men with her in the Humvee, was incapacitated by the wreck. If you want to see how women do in combat, check Shoshana. Checking Lynch proves nothing.

She had no business there in the first place.

Take it up with someone else, I don't care about that issue enough to argue about it. I'll leave that for the Army and for those that have been there to haggle over. We've had several women on this site that have served and support females doing Lynch's job, look for one of them to argue with about that.

She must weigh 125 soaking wet, with fragile physique and no upper body strength capable of throwing a grenade farther than its own killing radius.

Yeah, whatever. Tell someone else.

We put real war assets in danger to get her out, when rescue attempts historically is to get captured fighters out to return to the front.

She wasn't captured because she was a woman, she was captured because she was in a Humvee crash. If you want to look at fighting performance, look at Shoshana. Her case is the only one that would show evidence one way or the other.

With the rest of what happened, it is obvious that this was a political mission, which are rare, but do exist in time of war.

Nah. She was rescued because she was a POW.

They are frustrated with lies and fraud to turn a stabile society on its head, ignoring the unalterable characteristics of Nature, with the resulting chaos and instability for all.

They need to look at a case that's relevent. Lynch's case isn't relevant since she did no worse than the men in the Humvee.

I applaude them for pointing out the cracks (nitpicking) in the media structure built around Miss Lynch and the negative implications of that deceitful structure are legion. Were you not in a victim of liberal conditioning, you would be, too.

Don't call me a liberal or brainwashed. I know BS when I see it. And holding up Lynch as an example of women in combat is BS since she did no worse than the men in her Humvee.

You're telling me that you actually are unaware of the artificial hype around Miss Lynch?

I remember the same hype surrounding Zaun and the others in Gulf War 1. I remember the same hype with the hostages in Iran. I remember the same hype with Terry Anderson. You're imagining things.

I'm afraid I can't buy the "just wanting to honor those that had a hard time". I read what you have to say on other Lynch threads and don't get that impression. I don't think you can deny that Miss Lynch is getting away and gone more attention than others have gotten who really did something.

Sure because she was a lone rescuee. Them's the breaks. Some poeple are better known due to circumstance. And if you look at Free Republic, the people giving Lynch all the media attention are the very same people that are complaining of attention. A high percentage of Lynch threads are posted by Lynch bashers, just like this one was. And then they complain of attention! LOL Physician, heal thyself. If not for the bashing, there would be hardly any Lynch threads here.

Why do you think that is? And what purpose do you think that such hype is designed to serve?

I know what you purpose is. You give her attention for your pet peeve about women in military. Others hold her up for every little complaint they have from some weird cuteness envy, to bookwriting, or whatever.

53 posted on 11/02/2003 4:37:54 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: William Terrell
She was where she shouldn't have been, and Shoshanna Johnson and Lori Ann Piestewa as well, and you are right that that is the rotten leftovers of the previous misadministration. However, President Bush has not thrown out those spoiled leftovers.

They were dead and thus incapable of action. The men that were not out of it, fought. Miss Lynch did not fight. Her weapon "jammed".

Actually, she was unconscious busted up. so she was also "incapable of action."

If you feel as strongly as you say about the women in combat issue, Elaine Donnelly of the Center for Military Readiness has organized a petition and letter-writing and e-mail campaign to try to get President Bush roll back the Clinton policies. It was linked on WorldNetDaily.com a while back and should still be there.

66 posted on 11/03/2003 4:10:15 AM PST by milemark (Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is conspiracy.)
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