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1 posted on 11/01/2003 9:19:11 PM PST by doug from upland
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Glad you're okay out there, Doug!
2 posted on 11/01/2003 9:20:11 PM PST by nicmarlo
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Great 1999 piece by Dr. Bill -- CLICK.
3 posted on 11/01/2003 9:20:38 PM PST by doug from upland (Why aren't the Clintons living out their remaining years on Alcatraz?)
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Good news. If you go to the KGO link now, you can catch the last half hour of the gay Karel show.
5 posted on 11/01/2003 9:25:37 PM PST by doug from upland (Why aren't the Clintons living out their remaining years on Alcatraz?)
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Isn't Karel cute?
6 posted on 11/01/2003 9:29:49 PM PST by doug from upland (Why aren't the Clintons living out their remaining years on Alcatraz?)
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Yep, he already used the word "ecofrauds." He is going after the ecofrauds big time. He has been saying for years that this disaster was waiting to happen.
12 posted on 11/01/2003 10:09:42 PM PST by doug from upland (Why aren't the Clintons living out their remaining years on Alcatraz?)
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The ecofrauds, using Sen. Boxer, have stopped all required activity in our forests. His listeners all know it. They have made suckers out of the media.
13 posted on 11/01/2003 10:10:37 PM PST by doug from upland (Why aren't the Clintons living out their remaining years on Alcatraz?)
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To get the dead trees cleaned up, the effort would have had to begin LAST FALL.
15 posted on 11/01/2003 10:13:02 PM PST by doug from upland (Why aren't the Clintons living out their remaining years on Alcatraz?)
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Davis has helped stand in the way for three years, for five years. They have lied and the press has been complicit. They are now trying to cover their butts. The John Muir Project is the one that has filed most of the lawsuits that have stopped what needed to be done in the forests. They worked through Barbara Boxer.
21 posted on 11/01/2003 10:16:29 PM PST by doug from upland (Why aren't the Clintons living out their remaining years on Alcatraz?)
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Dr. Bill says it is going to happen again. Even if we started now, it would take more than a year to solve much of the problem. He says it is time for a class action suit against the Sierra Club. They have a hundred million bucks in the bank. Female attorney will be on soon to expose them. She has been fighting them and will expose their lies.
25 posted on 11/01/2003 10:22:14 PM PST by doug from upland (Why aren't the Clintons living out their remaining years on Alcatraz?)
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Thanks for the reminder, Doug.
32 posted on 11/01/2003 10:28:59 PM PST by uglybiker (Founding member of the Freerepublic Beer Drinking Team)
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As a matter of public safety, local county governments should go into federal courts and demand injunctions against federal management of forests outside designated wilderness areas unless the federal government can prove the local government is incapable of managing potential sources of ozone destroying wood smoke within their jurisdiction in a safe, reasonable, and prudent manner. Without federal obstruction, local governments could break local forests outside wilderness areas into 60-80 sq. mile tracts so they can be managed like an average family owned business that would naturally employ economies of scale to create safe productive forests. Without federal obstruction and the potential for ownership, forest managers would have great incentive to manage forests safely while creating a diverse array of quality recreation opportunities.

Economies of scale are essential for making removal of fuel suitable only for firing a boiler practical. Without removal of fuel of limited commercial value, leave trees and local communities are still at risk from accumulations of dangerous fuel. Economies of scale would also make environmental friendly practices like helicopter logging, selective logging, and cheap temporary haul roads built for ease of removal more practical.

In a lease to own arrangement, local government would roll over lease contracts periodically if local standards are met, with the leasee gaining ownership if the leasee shows that the management plan is safe and sustainable. Local governments, in the interest of public safety, would require economies of scale to insure that a thorough cleanup is accomplished without great expense and waste of usable fuel. As long as local government enables public access similar to current levels and has an effective scheme for managing smoke emissions and levels of temperature, oxygen, and silt in streams leaving their jurisdiction, federal obstruction in local forest management should be limited.

A typical forest rehab project should cover a minimum of 20 sq. miles, remove usable boiler fuel and excess mature live trees, use helicopters where terrain prohibits use of modern processing equipment, use temporary haul roads to remove fuel and fiber, use proceeds from sale of wood fiber to pay for removal of boiler fuel and restoration of areas within the project damaged by fire and poor forest management practices, and leave a nicely dispersed supply of sturdy young trees with little fuel to threaten them and the local population.

Without the need for thousands of miles of permanent roads to access small clearcuts, local government can make forest roads essential for reasonable and prudent management of fuel loads and public access to recreational opportunities a lot safer and more user friendly for both business and recreational purposes. In order to improve stream quality, many existing roads could be removed or made part of an extensive recreational trail network.


79 posted on 11/02/2003 10:01:14 AM PST by yoswif
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